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this hope radio for the masses headline

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of the food July 8 1947 the Army Air

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Force has announced that a flying there

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- found and is now in the possession of

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the army the game is rigged changed the

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quickly our differences worldwide would

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vanish if we were facing an alien threat

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from outside this way

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fade to black with your host Jimmy

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church on the game-changer Radio Network

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we need your help to get to the year

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you're listening today too

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with Jimmy judge only Game Change in

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good evening fade to black

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massive man faint black Monday April

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30th 2018 120 days into the new year

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just 245 days left we are live from a

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bunker somewhere in downtown Burbank

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California and I would like to welcome

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everybody listening all around the world

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all across the United States hither and

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thither to and fro back and forth up and

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down east and west north and south far

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and near this is fade to black for kjc

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are the game changer Network and K GRA

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the planet I'm your host Jimmy Church

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what is cracking everybody how you do it

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yeah man another week kicking off here

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on fade to black

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an amazing week we've got lined up

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very special guests back with us the one

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and only chance Gardner is here director

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of magical Egypt series 1 & 2 we're

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gonna talk about the latest release

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preview by the way and it's good it's

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great tomorrow night ken Johnston is

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here NASA image Whistleblower his story

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of it is extraordinary so that's what

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met Ken in Roswell a couple of years ago

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the time could not be better right so

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he'll be joining us tomorrow night for

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the first time and then Wednesday night

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the one in the only Michaela Sheldon is

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back one of the most requested returned

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guest in the history of this program and

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so she will join us again on Wednesday

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and open lines all night long it because

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it's Fator night so that's our week

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off what are we going to do now you can

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Facebook on stellar is taking over and

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what I'm talking about more on that in

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follow us on twitter at JT radio and you

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can go over to Jimmy turtlecom and click

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and follow like and subscribe okay

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alright the sandbox is hashtag f2b

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on twitter and now and you can come over

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other night hashtag f2b

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and anything that I can do any

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the final site as great as it is and I

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things that you love doing which is

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thousands of bug fixes but things are

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platform itself is beautiful and

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functional and is working and it's fast

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you will enjoy about on stellar and you

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go to alpha on stellar comm you can go

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and now register directly at the website

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and today we had a huge increase in

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registered users new reg I mean huge

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thousands and thousands today website

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did not slow down at all and that that

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was really cool but to see that

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everybody going there and and on hanging

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out seeing for the first time which you

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what you are seeing no advertising you

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know and the poison that is out there

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on Facebook this weekend and to just

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just see it right just dead you know go

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of things but every other post is an ad

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every other post and it's just like you

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see it to the left and to the right and

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the air and videos and thing it's like

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this big psyops and it's it's

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discouraging I don't get I don't dig it

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so you go over to on stellar and there's

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of that you don't even have to put in

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any information there if you don't want

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what city you are in that's cool because

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they know geographically you know get it

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and how angry you were and and we had to

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what that's exactly what I'm stellar is

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you can go there right now and and post

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anybody and I'm saying anybody that has

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a thought and and you're doing your

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it go you can go right there create an

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article tag it put your title on it post

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it and watch it trend you know and and

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actually get your article up there and

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trending right away and people can see

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what you have to say and then and then

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go back and then you guys make friends

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and the message and connect that's what

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it's magical it's absolutely amazing so

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go and register today alpha dot on

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stellar com it's that simple use the

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promo code Jimmy alright and or don't

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but when Han stellar launches the

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official site and that token economy

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kicks in you're gonna get bonus tokens

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and you want those right so that's why

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you need to use the promo code Jimmy

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okay all right what an incredible

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weekend just absolutely incredible all

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right coming up I can't even believe it

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but less than four weeks away is contact

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in the desert June 1st through the 4th

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2018 Indian Wells Palm Springs at the

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Renaissance Resort and Spa full weekend

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of activity going on out there

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go to contact in the desert calm you can

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click on the banners over at Jimmy

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Church radio and look at the speakers

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list look who is there it's absolutely

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and we'll be broadcasting live of course

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Friday night and I'll be hosting and

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emceeing and and and doing all kinds of

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things all weekend long hanging out with

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you will have a great booth on stellar

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is gonna have a booth next to us and

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come and hang out ok and that will be

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June 1st through the 4th contact in the

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desert and then

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right after that coming up in August is

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our sole tech which is up at E city

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ranch go to Seoul tech gathering dot-com

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click on the banners at Jimmy torch

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tickets and info all right there were

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only selling 300 tickets for this event

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Makayla Sheldon who will be with us on

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Wednesday is going to be one of the

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featured speakers up there at Seoul Tech

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and now I was just getting ready to say

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we had a we had a james gilliland on

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coast to coast on Friday night he said

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he is such a magical place and over the

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weekend do you remember the Malibu

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underwater base I flew out over the base

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I flew out in a private plane and shot

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video and took a bunch of pictures and

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we posted that stuff years ago well

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anyway that pilot of the plane is a

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friend of mine that I grew up with and

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he's now a commercial pilot for a major

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I ain't flies jets commercial jets but I

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grew up with him and he was the pilot

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that took me out over the Malibu base

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and I haven't ties the name Steve and I

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haven't talked to him in a while he's a

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busy guy right he's a commercial pilot

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shoots me this text over the weekend a

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church man I want to take my family my

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wife and some friends up to II said he

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and I'm looking at this palm like where

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did that come from

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I've known him since we were little kids

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I and I said Seoul tak and he hit me

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back and he goes really we're going so

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remember this conversation that I'm

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having with you right now when you go up

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to II said II I'm gonna introduce to

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everybody one of my oldest friends that

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on this planet and the pilot that flew

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over the Malibu base and you're gonna

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get to meet him I can't where I'm gonna

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walk around with this guy all weekend I

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cannot wait for him to come up and meet

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all of you it's uh it's think about that

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optics let's get this show crackin lots

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to talk about tonight happy birthday to

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today Cloris Leachman is 92 unbelievable

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and still doing it

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last season she was in the series

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American Gods which I can't wait for

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season 2 great cliffhanger she was on

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American Gods last year but we all

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remember her as nurse diesel in high

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anxiety

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yeah Cloris Leachman 92 years old

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Kirsten Dunst is 36 now listen before

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you go wait a minute Church Kirsten

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Dunst she was in a movie that you may

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not have seen it's called melancholia

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and that movie disturbing as it is is

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one of the one of the most amazing cast

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put together it's a movie about earth

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colliding with another planet and how it

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affects every

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buddy mentally knowing that everything

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is about to come to an end I'm not gonna

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give away at the end of the movie but it

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all comes to an end it's an incredible

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movie so Kirsten Dunst made the list

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melancholia go check it out

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today the man Willie Nelson is 85 and so

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I went through I couldn't help it you

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know I went through let's the took a

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bunch of Willy bills of drugs today

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always on my mind

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blue eyes crying in the rain and of

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course his guest appearance on

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Luckenbach Texas Waylon Jennings

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Luckenbach Texas Willie Nelson today is

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85 years old on this day in history 1945

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Adolf Hitler commits suicide allegedly

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Fader fact now listen to me Oh Sarah Ann

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just said melancholia one of my

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favorites I know right I mean that's a

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great movie great movie

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fader fact according to astronauts space

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smells like okay wait for it you ready

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space

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smells like seared steak hot metal and

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welding fumes that's right that's

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according to astronauts I haven't

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smelled it yet but that's it

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that's interesting it makes you wonder

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doesn't it all right

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also before I get to my little rant

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today in about two hours less than two

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hours Armenia is going to elect a new

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prime minister now I've been talking

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about there a little little revolution

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that they've been going through the

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demonstrations have not stopped there's

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been a hundred to two hundred thousand

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people each night marching in the

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streets and it all comes down to today

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which

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there and these elections are gonna go

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down and I will find out what's gonna

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happen here in a couple hours and I will

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share that with you

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it's 718 s going down at nine o'clock

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their time in less than two hours one

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hour and 50 minutes incredible increment

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today is it 718 yeah okay so there you

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go Armenia things can change well

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tonight chance Gardner is here and

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tomorrow night Ken Johnston is here

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Thursday or Wednesday night Michaela

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Sheldon and then Thursday night Jon

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Rappoport and his no more fake newsroom

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now okay here we go so so a tip is not a

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tip but a SAP the advanced aerospace

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threat identification program a tip well

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or is it advanced you know what ok

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whatever the name is apparently advanced

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aerospace threat identification program

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doesn't exist or did or it changed or

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changed his name or ran underneath

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another program or it's just um how do I

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say this not real made-up in reality

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suggested from recent and I'm quoting

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here air quotes uncovered documents

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it was the advanced aerospace weapons

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system application program otherwise

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known as AA SAP now first before I get

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started Richard Dolan was on before me

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tonight on his program speaking about

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this and I do want to thank Richard

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Dolan and Paul Dean for bringing the

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project name forward great work

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seriously ok but there is one problem

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with the recently on

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covered documents because I've had those

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secret uncovered documents on my hard

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drive for at least the last year the

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documents themselves are dated 2010 and

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I have them all I have both reports I

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sent them to Dolan right before the show

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tonight and and I spoke with Richard a

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few times this afternoon before his show

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tonight and like everyone else we are

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trying to figure out what is really

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going on and he's so good at what he

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does and his way at looking at things it

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really opens up my eyes I talk about

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that a lot

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that being said by revealing the project

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name well that says a lot for many

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reasons whether it's from secret

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documents air quotes secret documents

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that are not so secret if I have them

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then there's no telling who else has got

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these documents so um when I read them I

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thought that when I read these secret

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air-quote documents when I read them

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last year might have even been two years

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ago I've had them on my hard drive for a

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long time and when I read them both

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reports I thought at that time that it

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was really good science fiction and

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theory and it didn't really move me

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enough at that time to talk about it to

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comment on them about who wrote it the

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author's name is right they're very well

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known by the way but my memory says that

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it was stamped unclassified for general

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release right so I could be wrong on

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that but the name Advanced aerospace

436
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weapons systems application program is

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in there and it was the documents

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themselves there and they were about

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wormholes and and you know advanced

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engines warp drives and things like that

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and so I just thought it was

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well-written theory from somebody with

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the scientific background looking at the

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future the potential of different things

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and and almost like okay cool I didn't

446
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even know why these reports would have

447
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been written up it did just seem like

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really really good scientific thought

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science fiction and which is cool

450
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there's nothing wrong with that but I

451
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didn't consider a top-secret or anything

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else and and I read through them a

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couple of times and actually had the

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thought of but this would make a really

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good book right well I know that there

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are a bunch of researchers out there

457
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that are gonna jump on this and say that

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it means so much for you follow gene

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disclosure and it might but and and sure

460
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that's important but if it's actually

461
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tied to UFOs or you appear or you ApS or

462
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et in any way then it could be

463
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significant but we really don't know

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00:23:33,860 --> 00:23:30,960
anything so let me talk about what's

465
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really important here since nobody else

466
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will all right and this is what needs to

467
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be driven home if things play out the

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way that they are currently presented in

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these reports then well the name

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advanced aerospace threat identification

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program a tip never existed and that

472
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that's something that needs to be

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discussed which means that the New York

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00:24:05,120 --> 00:24:01,769
Times got it wrong which fed into all of

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the other mainstream news and they all

476
00:24:14,090 --> 00:24:10,139
got it wrong too this needs to be raised

477
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this point which means that to the stars

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academy or Elizondo never corrected or

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retracted a tip and that needs to be

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addressed which means that to the Stars

481
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Academy has spread disinfo by either not

482
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knowing what they were talking about

483
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that's disinformation certainly or maybe

484
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directly not caring about presenting the

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true facts

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the newly found advanced aerospace

487
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weapons system application program

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awesome

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by its very definition is a man-made

490
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satellite weapon system like Star Wars

491
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and has nothing to do with et and

492
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everything to do with current weapons

493
00:25:03,820 --> 00:24:59,870
platform you know that are used in space

494
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in our Earth orbit or missiles whatever

495
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but not flying saucers or even mylar

496
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party balloons I raise these questions

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me because if Elizondo is who he says he

498
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is then I think that he may be full of

499
00:25:34,990 --> 00:25:31,700
himself in that if we are to take these

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00:25:37,510 --> 00:25:35,000
two reports that are not secret whether

501
00:25:39,430 --> 00:25:37,520
or not they were Declassified and so

502
00:25:42,250 --> 00:25:39,440
forth but if we're gonna take those at

503
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face value which is fine I have no

504
00:25:47,590 --> 00:25:44,930
issues with that they could be 100

505
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percent a spot on the money you know

506
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theorizing the future of things and and

507
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this new program so if that is indeed

508
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the case that means that Elizondo didn't

509
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actually work for anything UFO at the

510
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Pentagon and that I I'm just going

511
00:26:14,350 --> 00:26:12,350
backwards and connecting the dots he

512
00:26:17,830 --> 00:26:14,360
never got the name right because it

513
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:17,840
didn't exist and what really existed he

514
00:26:21,550 --> 00:26:19,490
didn't know anything about and I'm

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talking about this new advanced

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aerospace weapons systems application

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program right is all sap really a tip I

518
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:34,160
don't think he worked for I I don't

519
00:26:38,500 --> 00:26:35,570
otherwise he would have gotten this

520
00:26:40,450 --> 00:26:38,510
other programs name correct right so I

521
00:26:45,550 --> 00:26:40,460
don't think he worked for it he didn't

522
00:26:48,430 --> 00:26:45,560
work on it or he didn't had it period so

523
00:26:51,970 --> 00:26:48,440
was awesome actually a tip probably not

524
00:26:53,620 --> 00:26:51,980
but we have to ask the questions it may

525
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be in a may pan

526
00:26:59,230 --> 00:26:55,880
out that it was or is but I don't think

527
00:27:01,570 --> 00:26:59,240
so but we will ask those questions and

528
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:01,580
we will find out the truth all of us

529
00:27:07,330 --> 00:27:04,250
this community second what does the

530
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:07,340
mention of a SAP in this current secret

531
00:27:12,610 --> 00:27:09,290
not so secret totally public recently

532
00:27:15,550 --> 00:27:12,620
uncovered but not really secret document

533
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:15,560
mean anything well let me say this I've

534
00:27:21,310 --> 00:27:18,650
read both reports I've had them for

535
00:27:24,010 --> 00:27:21,320
quite some time and I know that to the

536
00:27:26,980 --> 00:27:24,020
stars Academy should have them because

537
00:27:28,690 --> 00:27:26,990
of who the author is and I'm not going

538
00:27:31,060 --> 00:27:28,700
to get involved in that part of it but

539
00:27:33,250 --> 00:27:31,070
the real name of the program should have

540
00:27:36,370 --> 00:27:33,260
been known to them to the Stars if

541
00:27:40,060 --> 00:27:36,380
indeed the two are connected or once

542
00:27:43,180 --> 00:27:40,070
again now if TTS a just didn't want to

543
00:27:45,730 --> 00:27:43,190
reveal the real truth because it would

544
00:27:48,910 --> 00:27:45,740
unwind their narrative I'm just

545
00:27:51,490 --> 00:27:48,920
speculating here but it's really easy to

546
00:27:53,620 --> 00:27:51,500
connect the dots here because unless the

547
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:53,630
author comes forward stating that the

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two reports are based on real tech and

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projects or it's just theory and an

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exciting look at the future and you know

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which is the way that I took it either

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way TTS a has more splainin to do

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which they won't and I get that but it

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seems that much of their sources are

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just based on really good science

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fiction and theory all of it seriously

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and you need to think about that all

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right so what how this plays out I don't

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know I don't know but just like the

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waters are getting murkier and murkier I

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think it's time for too long to just go

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and work on a new album I think that

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should be the focus with that this is

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fade to black I'm your host Jimmy Church

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our guest tonight chance gardener

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magical Egypt one and two the director

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we're gonna talk about the new episode

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episode five of magical Egypt to fade to

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award-winning graphic designer 3d

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animator cinematographer editor after 20

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year career producing motion graphics

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and on-air promo for major TV networks

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including 20th Century Fox Paramount

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Studios and NBC Universal he retired

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from television in 2001 to make

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documentaries his first documentary

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magical Egypt became a cult classic and

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is still in wide circulation around the

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world after 15 years Gardner has

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returned to the magical Egypt project to

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produce the multi and the

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much-anticipated magical Egypt series 2

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which features the iconic personalities

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from the original Emmy plus a new

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generation of researchers and unorthodox

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thinkers all united by a common

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fascination with the unexplained

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mysteries of the past tonight we're

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gonna talk about the latest installment

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episode 5 and go deeper into the making

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of magical Egypt 1 into lost history

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civilizations art and symbolism I would

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like to welcome back the one and only

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chance gardener chance good evening good

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evening Jimmy what a pleasure

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ah the pleasure is all mine man you know

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you got that voice man you got that hair

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how are you I am fantastic unlike any

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person who's just given birth to

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something physically larger than me I'm

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I'm recovering from the production

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process but as you know you being the

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first person besides me to have seen the

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show episode 5 is now done and so now my

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mind is starting to wander onto subjects

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of sleep and recuperation well you know

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chance I got it I gotta hand it to you

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my my levels of expectation are so high

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when it comes to what you do in magical

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Egypt I mean we all know how I feel

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about the series

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but I was very impressed there okay I

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know and I talked to you about this

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earlier today but I didn't get a

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reaction from you

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one of the things it's the it's the data

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it's the knowledge okay that that's

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great but the cinematography the

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graphics the animation and the overall

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look of magical Egypt is second to none

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there's nothing else out there that has

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this kind of quality Wow Wow how do you

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pull this off I I really I is it just

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literally hours and hours and hours of

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programming to get this stuff done I I

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don't understand how this level of

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visual and graphics can be pulled off

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how do you do it

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sheer hours tons of hours sitting at the

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computer with rampant disregard for my

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health and the welfare of those around

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me I just sit and sit and sit when I was

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at the network's I had a really wide

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spectrum of things that I did over the

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course of the years but my primary

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education and my you know my main day

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job for most this time was creating

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visuals that would create a vibe so I

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you know Rupert Murdoch with Fox

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I never Network has this responsibility

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to create a vibe and an atmosphere and a

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look you know and that attracts people

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like you're trying to attract a mate or

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something and it was I took it very

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seriously

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and there's a certain point at which

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graphics stop becoming graphics and

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start becoming hypnosis or a type of

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charm spell and you know as a visual

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00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:01,030
artist I'm just I'm constantly in

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pursuit of that and I didn't really

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become radicalised as a visual artist

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until I was in Egypt with John West and

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he explained to me why the Egyptian art

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works the way it does and it actually

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works more like a medicine or a physical

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stimuli than you know like a picture on

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the wall of your average Howard

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Johnson's or something and so I've tried

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to present the visuals of this show in

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the same way that Egypt presents visuals

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and it speaks directly to a polarity of

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your consciousness that most people

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don't use it's a very right-brain way of

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communicating and as you may know your

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right brain doesn't use

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language uses visuals and icons and

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symbolism so that's why the experience

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of Egypt is so immersive because it it

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prompts parts of your brain that you

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don't normally use and it's like a kind

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of nutrition that most people never get

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00:37:54,049 --> 00:37:51,720
do you think your DNA has changed you

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personally you've been so wrapped up

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into Egypt and the the the visual the

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sculpture the art the hieroglyphics all

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of that that it is somehow manifesting

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its way through you to communicate

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through the visuals so there is

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something going on there man

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00:38:13,849 --> 00:38:12,269
when I first went to Egypt one of the

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weirdest things that happened to me was

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that it occurred to me that Egypt itself

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those traditions have a kind of

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intelligence and a kind of person

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00:38:24,049 --> 00:38:21,690
personality is not the right word but

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it's like this thing that wants to be

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known and anybody who's willing to pick

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up the mantle Egypt will talk to you

766
00:38:33,740 --> 00:38:31,650
there was a famous nurse Nightingale

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Florence Nightingale who was just a

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regular nurse until she went to Egypt

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and it radicalized her in this weird way

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engineers you know Napoleon went to

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Egypt and became changed by it

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it's a weird property of this place and

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partially the art and partially the

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ideas that really take whatever raw

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00:38:55,130 --> 00:38:53,789
material you have and and I don't I keep

776
00:38:56,359 --> 00:38:55,140
using that word radicalize I know that's

777
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a terrible word to be using right now

778
00:39:00,109 --> 00:38:58,380
but it polarizes you or it brings

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something to life and you and you're in

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00:39:04,069 --> 00:39:02,069
those places and I've still never

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00:39:06,259 --> 00:39:04,079
figured out is it magnetic fields that

782
00:39:08,779 --> 00:39:06,269
the temples produce is it just the sheer

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00:39:11,150 --> 00:39:08,789
mechanical effect of the aesthetics but

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00:39:14,210 --> 00:39:11,160
there's a lot of people who gone on to

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00:39:17,450 --> 00:39:14,220
really shift human history that they're

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first the thing that made them so eager

787
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to go out and do it and the thing that

788
00:39:22,900 --> 00:39:20,549
made them able to do it was standing

789
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:22,910
face to face with this enigmatic

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00:39:27,140 --> 00:39:25,410
accomplishment that just it forces you

791
00:39:31,460 --> 00:39:27,150
to rise to levels that you wouldn't

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ordinarily the the other part of it for

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00:39:39,499 --> 00:39:35,839
me is that there was a way of

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communicating back then that we don't

795
00:39:43,930 --> 00:39:42,180
have today today it's more of a PSYOP

796
00:39:47,690 --> 00:39:43,940
they're trying to get you to spend money

797
00:39:49,550 --> 00:39:47,700
right back then visual communications

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was about the

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and emotions and communication and

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preserving knowledge right it's the

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opposite of what we do today and I think

802
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that you're you're capturing that aspect

803
00:40:05,270 --> 00:40:02,270
of it with magical Egypt you're not

804
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promoting yourself there if you know

805
00:40:11,420 --> 00:40:06,960
what I mean it's not about that it's

806
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about communicating the the artistic

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00:40:16,430 --> 00:40:14,070
side of it and and how important it was

808
00:40:19,820 --> 00:40:16,440
how technically important it was to

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00:40:24,050 --> 00:40:19,830
write right in a strange way it's very

810
00:40:26,540 --> 00:40:24,060
much like a visual virus that right yes

811
00:40:30,260 --> 00:40:26,550
yes yes that's where yep that was good

812
00:40:32,780 --> 00:40:30,270
can I steal that vision virus visual

813
00:40:34,580 --> 00:40:32,790
virus that's exactly what I'm talking

814
00:40:37,550 --> 00:40:34,590
about when I mentioned it has your DNA

815
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changed you know I'm the typhoid mary

816
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I'm the typhoid mary of magical egypt

817
00:40:47,230 --> 00:40:43,800
right and then i'm doing my best to pass

818
00:40:52,070 --> 00:40:47,240
on that virulent infection they a and

819
00:40:54,770 --> 00:40:52,080
it's there i I get sucked in the

820
00:40:55,910 --> 00:40:54,780
difference between science and the

821
00:40:58,760 --> 00:40:55,920
humanities the difference between

822
00:41:00,230 --> 00:40:58,770
science and theoretic things you

823
00:41:03,350 --> 00:41:00,240
especially noticed on college campuses

824
00:41:05,090 --> 00:41:03,360
nowadays scientists can sit back and let

825
00:41:06,830 --> 00:41:05,100
their findings speak for themselves the

826
00:41:08,450 --> 00:41:06,840
essence of science is that you don't

827
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:08,460
have to argue science science proves

828
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:10,290
itself you can always prove that two and

829
00:41:15,500 --> 00:41:13,170
two equals four there's a place where

830
00:41:16,970 --> 00:41:15,510
the rubber meets the road and the Masons

831
00:41:18,500 --> 00:41:16,980
the Freemasons call it the difference

832
00:41:19,910 --> 00:41:18,510
between speculative and operative

833
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:19,920
there's things that you can talk about

834
00:41:23,930 --> 00:41:21,810
all day long but then there's things

835
00:41:25,460 --> 00:41:23,940
that you can actually do and demonstrate

836
00:41:26,930 --> 00:41:25,470
and the difference between science and

837
00:41:28,940 --> 00:41:26,940
the humanities is essentially that

838
00:41:30,770 --> 00:41:28,950
science proves itself whereas the

839
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:30,780
humanities kind of devolve into my

840
00:41:34,910 --> 00:41:33,450
theory versus your theory so another

841
00:41:36,980 --> 00:41:34,920
thing that happened to me when I was in

842
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:36,990
Egypt with John West John is not a

843
00:41:42,710 --> 00:41:39,570
visual artist himself but he always took

844
00:41:44,210 --> 00:41:42,720
the time especially knowing what I did

845
00:41:48,020 --> 00:41:44,220
for a living he always took the time to

846
00:41:50,420 --> 00:41:48,030
show me that there's involuntary nervous

847
00:41:51,980 --> 00:41:50,430
system reactions involuntary autonomic

848
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:51,990
reactions that you have to certain

849
00:41:57,770 --> 00:41:54,690
proportions and certain harmonies and

850
00:42:00,890 --> 00:41:57,780
we're just wired in this way that our

851
00:42:01,359 --> 00:42:00,900
body flores's are our brains come online

852
00:42:03,789 --> 00:42:01,369
and

853
00:42:05,499 --> 00:42:03,799
we have this actual physical measurable

854
00:42:07,479 --> 00:42:05,509
reaction to certain kinds of art you

855
00:42:09,819 --> 00:42:07,489
know your pupils dilate your galvanic

856
00:42:11,140 --> 00:42:09,829
skin response changes and very much all

857
00:42:13,180 --> 00:42:11,150
the mechanisms that happen in love at

858
00:42:16,450 --> 00:42:13,190
first sight like there's a biological

859
00:42:18,670 --> 00:42:16,460
imperative in us to respond and to have

860
00:42:20,410 --> 00:42:18,680
a relationship with these things and I

861
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:20,420
think you can see you know without

862
00:42:24,450 --> 00:42:22,249
sounding too pessimistic you can see in

863
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:24,460
our culture how the demands of Industry

864
00:42:31,509 --> 00:42:29,930
have kind of disincentivized us to spend

865
00:42:33,279 --> 00:42:31,519
time around beautiful things or spend

866
00:42:34,690 --> 00:42:33,289
time creating beautiful things for no

867
00:42:36,999 --> 00:42:34,700
reason if there's not somebody there

868
00:42:38,289 --> 00:42:37,009
giving you a paycheck to do this very

869
00:42:39,910 --> 00:42:38,299
few people are gonna take it upon

870
00:42:42,489 --> 00:42:39,920
themselves to take months and months and

871
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:42,499
explore the nature of beauty and try and

872
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:45,410
reconstruct this viral visual image but

873
00:42:49,660 --> 00:42:47,690
for me it was so important and this

874
00:42:51,849 --> 00:42:49,670
project originally started out being a

875
00:42:53,650 --> 00:42:51,859
much more specialized interest show for

876
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:53,660
artists here are these techniques from

877
00:42:57,880 --> 00:42:55,729
ancient Egypt that turn art and a

878
00:43:00,989 --> 00:42:57,890
timeless art or turn art into hypnotism

879
00:43:03,339 --> 00:43:00,999
and part of the reason why it's such a

880
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:03,349
interactive and immersive experience is

881
00:43:07,450 --> 00:43:05,450
that this isn't passive appreciation of

882
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:07,460
art this stuff reaches out and grabs you

883
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:09,410
and it installs itself in your head

884
00:43:13,209 --> 00:43:11,450
whether you want it to or not and then

885
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:13,219
you start mutating you know like the

886
00:43:19,029 --> 00:43:16,249
Cronenberg film well if you think about

887
00:43:20,950 --> 00:43:19,039
it it went down you know the the roaring

888
00:43:24,809 --> 00:43:20,960
20s here in the United States every

889
00:43:28,959 --> 00:43:24,819
thing was Egypt the hairstyle the dress

890
00:43:33,190 --> 00:43:28,969
all Egypt right and they didn't

891
00:43:34,569 --> 00:43:33,200
understand why they were infected you

892
00:43:37,839 --> 00:43:34,579
don't need to you don't need to know

893
00:43:39,729 --> 00:43:37,849
anything about a cold or flu virus it's

894
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:39,739
immaterial whether you're on board or

895
00:43:43,959 --> 00:43:42,410
not it's gonna do what it does and you

896
00:43:45,339 --> 00:43:43,969
know if you can step back far enough I'm

897
00:43:47,799 --> 00:43:45,349
sure there's a really important reason

898
00:43:49,329 --> 00:43:47,809
and the mechanism of everything why this

899
00:43:50,799 --> 00:43:49,339
stuff's necessary it might be the thing

900
00:43:53,469 --> 00:43:50,809
that drives us forward you know

901
00:43:54,670 --> 00:43:53,479
evolutionarily speaking yeah well you

902
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:54,680
know hieroglyphics

903
00:43:59,229 --> 00:43:56,930
there is something infectious about that

904
00:44:01,239 --> 00:43:59,239
too as well using that term again you're

905
00:44:03,249 --> 00:44:01,249
there's something about it that draws

906
00:44:06,069 --> 00:44:03,259
you in and you don't even know what

907
00:44:09,130 --> 00:44:06,079
you're reading right but you're drawn

908
00:44:12,700 --> 00:44:09,140
into it the when you look at some of

909
00:44:14,579 --> 00:44:12,710
those amazing photographs of King Tut's

910
00:44:17,370 --> 00:44:14,589
but you know Golden's are

911
00:44:20,190 --> 00:44:17,380
prophetess right the the face and you

912
00:44:23,609 --> 00:44:20,200
are immediately connected to it and you

913
00:44:27,569 --> 00:44:23,619
don't know why it's just so effective my

914
00:44:30,089 --> 00:44:27,579
first experience with symbolism was

915
00:44:31,319 --> 00:44:30,099
through the Tarot and you know me a lot

916
00:44:32,700 --> 00:44:31,329
of people are familiar with the Tarot

917
00:44:34,979 --> 00:44:32,710
and the Tarot is like a book with no

918
00:44:36,509 --> 00:44:34,989
words and if you know nothing about it

919
00:44:38,849 --> 00:44:36,519
more or less the same thing happens with

920
00:44:40,140 --> 00:44:38,859
the alchemical plates if you have eyes

921
00:44:41,999 --> 00:44:40,150
and if you have a brain and a working

922
00:44:43,829 --> 00:44:42,009
nervous system and you encounter this

923
00:44:45,749 --> 00:44:43,839
art and you interact with it it starts

924
00:44:47,910 --> 00:44:45,759
telling you this story but it tells you

925
00:44:49,650 --> 00:44:47,920
a story through pictures and not just

926
00:44:51,420 --> 00:44:49,660
individual pictures but the relationship

927
00:44:54,289 --> 00:44:51,430
of things to one another it's a little

928
00:44:57,839 --> 00:44:54,299
boy passing a flower to a girl and or

929
00:45:00,599 --> 00:44:57,849
any number of images and you see them

930
00:45:02,969 --> 00:45:00,609
and they speak to you but in this unique

931
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:02,979
way that's unique to the mysteries

932
00:45:06,390 --> 00:45:05,170
throughout history that right away you

933
00:45:08,729 --> 00:45:06,400
know that this is telling you a story

934
00:45:10,109 --> 00:45:08,739
it's like a snake whispering in your ear

935
00:45:13,140 --> 00:45:10,119
but you don't know exactly what the

936
00:45:14,999 --> 00:45:13,150
words are and when you see this stuff

937
00:45:15,839 --> 00:45:15,009
for me it was the Tarot symbolism for

938
00:45:17,759 --> 00:45:15,849
other people was the alchemical

939
00:45:19,709 --> 00:45:17,769
symbolism and there's lots of different

940
00:45:22,259 --> 00:45:19,719
places and times where this message has

941
00:45:24,420 --> 00:45:22,269
come through it evokes in you this

942
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:24,430
fascination where somebody's telling me

943
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:26,650
a story or a riddle but I need to do

944
00:45:31,140 --> 00:45:28,690
some learning myself to understand what

945
00:45:33,479 --> 00:45:31,150
these words are and so when you start

946
00:45:37,079 --> 00:45:33,489
studying the Tarot it draws you back to

947
00:45:39,450 --> 00:45:37,089
the original source of this time in

948
00:45:42,180 --> 00:45:39,460
humanity when people used visuals

949
00:45:43,529 --> 00:45:42,190
instead of letters it's like the

950
00:45:46,620 --> 00:45:43,539
difference between digital and analog

951
00:45:47,969 --> 00:45:46,630
that images and icons affect your right

952
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:47,979
brain and your right brain as we

953
00:45:53,819 --> 00:45:50,170
discussed doesn't really use language it

954
00:45:55,739 --> 00:45:53,829
works in symbols and associations and to

955
00:45:57,930 --> 00:45:55,749
the extent that people can become genius

956
00:45:59,430 --> 00:45:57,940
and that I but one of the things we're

957
00:46:01,109 --> 00:45:59,440
exploring in the show is that everyone

958
00:46:04,049 --> 00:46:01,119
has the potential to become a genius and

959
00:46:05,759 --> 00:46:04,059
it's all about learning to use this

960
00:46:07,859 --> 00:46:05,769
other polarity of consciousness that we

961
00:46:10,469 --> 00:46:07,869
all have access to that works in visuals

962
00:46:12,209 --> 00:46:10,479
and it works in associations these webs

963
00:46:13,589 --> 00:46:12,219
of meaning and Association and that's

964
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:13,599
where wisdom comes from and it's where

965
00:46:17,579 --> 00:46:15,729
intelligence comes from and so part of

966
00:46:19,140 --> 00:46:17,589
the reason why this is as it you know is

967
00:46:20,249 --> 00:46:19,150
it's addictive and I completely agree

968
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:20,259
with you when you say that it's

969
00:46:25,469 --> 00:46:22,930
addictive in this weird way that it is

970
00:46:27,299 --> 00:46:25,479
amplifying your intelligence and is

971
00:46:28,140 --> 00:46:27,309
building this model in your head that's

972
00:46:30,750 --> 00:46:28,150
made of the

973
00:46:32,420 --> 00:46:30,760
these groups of pictures and the more

974
00:46:34,890 --> 00:46:32,430
complete the more high-res you're

975
00:46:36,089 --> 00:46:34,900
symbolic model gets in your head the

976
00:46:38,279 --> 00:46:36,099
more you start finding that you

977
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:38,289
understand things in life they're

978
00:46:43,650 --> 00:46:40,930
completely unrelated but that you've

979
00:46:45,890 --> 00:46:43,660
learned these underlying causal forces

980
00:46:49,950 --> 00:46:45,900
because this story was told to you and

981
00:46:51,660 --> 00:46:49,960
how old is this voice how where what was

982
00:46:53,730 --> 00:46:51,670
the intelligence that originally put

983
00:46:56,309 --> 00:46:53,740
this together the the nature of the

984
00:46:59,400 --> 00:46:56,319
story is so smart and it's so weirdly

985
00:47:03,480 --> 00:46:59,410
insightful that this is why I think some

986
00:47:05,819 --> 00:47:03,490
people understandably go to the idea

987
00:47:07,859 --> 00:47:05,829
that it was some non-human presence that

988
00:47:09,569 --> 00:47:07,869
must have originated these ideas and

989
00:47:10,980 --> 00:47:09,579
from there you know people go off in

990
00:47:14,990 --> 00:47:10,990
different directions about what that non

991
00:47:17,010 --> 00:47:15,000
intelligent entity was but clearly

992
00:47:18,720 --> 00:47:17,020
people with a certain kind of intellect

993
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:18,730
on a certain kind of mental makeup find

994
00:47:23,190 --> 00:47:20,650
this stuff just irresistible like a

995
00:47:25,700 --> 00:47:23,200
catnip and it turns out it's important

996
00:47:28,410 --> 00:47:25,710
because it's not just visually beautiful

997
00:47:31,260 --> 00:47:28,420
and this is what the nature of magical

998
00:47:33,750 --> 00:47:31,270
Egypt is is it started out as a research

999
00:47:35,279 --> 00:47:33,760
project just and trying to identify

1000
00:47:37,529 --> 00:47:35,289
these techniques that would help artists

1001
00:47:39,079 --> 00:47:37,539
out in the modern day and very quickly

1002
00:47:40,319 --> 00:47:39,089
as we started this sort of

1003
00:47:42,510 --> 00:47:40,329
semi-organized

1004
00:47:44,190 --> 00:47:42,520
research group we started finding that

1005
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:44,200
when you realize what these symbols are

1006
00:47:50,700 --> 00:47:46,930
saying this is an incredibly important

1007
00:47:52,710 --> 00:47:50,710
image it's not a bunch of religious and

1008
00:47:55,710 --> 00:47:52,720
proto mythology as people generally

1009
00:47:58,589 --> 00:47:55,720
credited as but it's this technical

1010
00:48:01,589 --> 00:47:58,599
scientific transmission that is a lot

1011
00:48:04,109 --> 00:48:01,599
more like finding a crashed UFO than

1012
00:48:06,240 --> 00:48:04,119
walking into an old church this is this

1013
00:48:08,339 --> 00:48:06,250
is technology and it's science but it's

1014
00:48:10,079 --> 00:48:08,349
been misclassified and misunderstood and

1015
00:48:11,779 --> 00:48:10,089
so one of the things we're trying to do

1016
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:11,789
in the magical Egypt series is

1017
00:48:16,559 --> 00:48:13,690
reverse-engineer this just like you

1018
00:48:18,779 --> 00:48:16,569
might a crashed UFO and see if there's

1019
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:18,789
you know some fiber optics or Kevlar I

1020
00:48:26,579 --> 00:48:20,770
think that we can reverse-engineer yeah

1021
00:48:31,079 --> 00:48:26,589
exactly and so if we go back to let's go

1022
00:48:33,569 --> 00:48:31,089
to 3000 BC right and they are allegedly

1023
00:48:35,609 --> 00:48:33,579
making these advances maybe these

1024
00:48:38,190 --> 00:48:35,619
advances were already known to them from

1025
00:48:41,130 --> 00:48:38,200
a prior civilization which is what I

1026
00:48:44,070 --> 00:48:41,140
think but putting that aside

1027
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:44,080
in three thousand years going up to Year

1028
00:48:49,380 --> 00:48:47,290
Zero you would have thought that that

1029
00:48:53,100 --> 00:48:49,390
scientific knowledge that they obviously

1030
00:48:56,970 --> 00:48:53,110
had a grasp of they should have been to

1031
00:48:58,800 --> 00:48:56,980
the moon by Year Zero well you know what

1032
00:49:01,250 --> 00:48:58,810
I mean they should have had that all of

1033
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:01,260
those advances that we have done since

1034
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:06,010
1802 today that they had they had all of

1035
00:49:10,710 --> 00:49:08,650
that scientific knowledge they did they

1036
00:49:13,890 --> 00:49:10,720
understood astronomy they understood

1037
00:49:17,220 --> 00:49:13,900
science they understood math what what

1038
00:49:20,100 --> 00:49:17,230
what happened was there was there a lost

1039
00:49:23,220 --> 00:49:20,110
chapter in scientific history and and

1040
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:23,230
something just suddenly stopped and and

1041
00:49:27,210 --> 00:49:24,850
more than there it is was it a lost

1042
00:49:29,910 --> 00:49:27,220
chapter it appears for all intents and

1043
00:49:32,580 --> 00:49:29,920
purposes as if there is a lost chapter

1044
00:49:35,340 --> 00:49:32,590
in the history of human sciences very

1045
00:49:39,570 --> 00:49:35,350
well observed and exactly the thrust of

1046
00:49:40,860 --> 00:49:39,580
our show that to answer your question

1047
00:49:43,950 --> 00:49:40,870
though here's what I think is really

1048
00:49:46,650 --> 00:49:43,960
meaningful about your question if you

1049
00:49:48,450 --> 00:49:46,660
assume over time that our values have

1050
00:49:50,730 --> 00:49:48,460
shifted our values as a culture of

1051
00:49:52,590 --> 00:49:50,740
shifted so that the most important thing

1052
00:49:53,940 --> 00:49:52,600
in the world is this big rock up in the

1053
00:49:57,450 --> 00:49:53,950
sky that's floating around the earth

1054
00:49:59,430 --> 00:49:57,460
right when you go back farther there's a

1055
00:50:01,200 --> 00:49:59,440
much bigger mystery than what's on the

1056
00:50:02,970 --> 00:50:01,210
moon there's a much bigger mystery than

1057
00:50:05,610 --> 00:50:02,980
how many rings around Saturn there's a

1058
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:05,620
much bigger mystery than anything that

1059
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:07,930
happens outside of us and it directly

1060
00:50:11,970 --> 00:50:09,970
addresses this thing that's a black hole

1061
00:50:14,240 --> 00:50:11,980
in modern science and if you talked

1062
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:14,250
about just about any really interesting

1063
00:50:18,930 --> 00:50:16,570
behavioral scientists or sociologists or

1064
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:18,940
neurologists you know one of the central

1065
00:50:22,770 --> 00:50:21,010
mystery of Sciences to this day is

1066
00:50:24,570 --> 00:50:22,780
nobody understands what consciousness is

1067
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:24,580
like what the hell is that thing that

1068
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:26,770
makes me aware of me and that I'm not

1069
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:28,210
you I can talk to you and I can

1070
00:50:31,650 --> 00:50:30,010
understand what you're saying but I'm me

1071
00:50:33,720 --> 00:50:31,660
and you're you and you're trapped in

1072
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:33,730
this meat wagon that carries your

1073
00:50:38,340 --> 00:50:35,530
perspective and your perceptions around

1074
00:50:39,810 --> 00:50:38,350
and I am but the fact that we're self

1075
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:39,820
monitoring and thinking and that we have

1076
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:41,410
this voice going on in our head and that

1077
00:50:45,180 --> 00:50:43,210
sometimes for no reason we fall in love

1078
00:50:46,810 --> 00:50:45,190
or we laugh at a joke or we create this

1079
00:50:49,900 --> 00:50:46,820
meaningful art there

1080
00:50:52,180 --> 00:50:49,910
a mystery there that is so high science

1081
00:50:53,470 --> 00:50:52,190
that science doesn't quite know what to

1082
00:50:55,930 --> 00:50:53,480
do with it they don't even know what

1083
00:50:58,030 --> 00:50:55,940
classification to put it in so religion

1084
00:51:00,190 --> 00:50:58,040
takes a stab at it you know all of all

1085
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:00,200
kinds of people want to step up and say

1086
00:51:06,070 --> 00:51:02,810
here's what I think this is but there

1087
00:51:07,240 --> 00:51:06,080
was a science in Egypt that seems you

1088
00:51:08,230 --> 00:51:07,250
know if you look at the pyramids and you

1089
00:51:10,150 --> 00:51:08,240
look at the temples and look what

1090
00:51:12,010 --> 00:51:10,160
they're capable of technically what

1091
00:51:13,810 --> 00:51:12,020
wouldn't they have been able to do but

1092
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:13,820
the important thing to remember is back

1093
00:51:19,420 --> 00:51:16,490
then their values were so different that

1094
00:51:21,550 --> 00:51:19,430
they put their science in service of

1095
00:51:23,740 --> 00:51:21,560
discovering the mysteries of the most

1096
00:51:26,140 --> 00:51:23,750
mysterious thing there is which is the

1097
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:26,150
inner universe of consciousness and so

1098
00:51:30,910 --> 00:51:28,610
our Western world our big accomplishment

1099
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:30,920
was getting to the moon which is

1100
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:31,970
becoming more and more speculative

1101
00:51:35,860 --> 00:51:34,010
nowadays right you watch a lot of

1102
00:51:38,170 --> 00:51:35,870
YouTube but assuming that that actually

1103
00:51:39,540 --> 00:51:38,180
happened um it's just so much more

1104
00:51:42,910 --> 00:51:39,550
important that we find out about this

1105
00:51:43,930 --> 00:51:42,920
incredibly bizarre inner landscape that

1106
00:51:45,790 --> 00:51:43,940
we might not even have to ourselves

1107
00:51:48,820 --> 00:51:45,800
there's this world going on in the

1108
00:51:50,620 --> 00:51:48,830
darkness of your head and so as our

1109
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:50,630
research project continued to progress

1110
00:51:55,150 --> 00:51:53,330
what we'd realized was exactly that that

1111
00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:55,160
there was an ancient science in the past

1112
00:51:58,450 --> 00:51:57,170
that's just absolutely not regarded in

1113
00:52:00,280 --> 00:51:58,460
the modern day as being a science

1114
00:52:01,930 --> 00:52:00,290
although it produced things like the

1115
00:52:05,410 --> 00:52:01,940
pyramids that are clearly you know

1116
00:52:08,650 --> 00:52:05,420
scientifically amazing and masterful and

1117
00:52:09,970 --> 00:52:08,660
the real ultimately whatever's going on

1118
00:52:11,620 --> 00:52:09,980
in the moon has nothing to do with me it

1119
00:52:13,570 --> 00:52:11,630
does not affect me from a day-to-day

1120
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:13,580
basis but if there's a science that can

1121
00:52:17,650 --> 00:52:15,650
tell me about the way my brain operates

1122
00:52:19,150 --> 00:52:17,660
you know especially me as a creative you

1123
00:52:21,370 --> 00:52:19,160
as a creative I've heard some of the

1124
00:52:23,860 --> 00:52:21,380
music you produce and play yourself and

1125
00:52:26,980 --> 00:52:23,870
you're around artists all the time and

1126
00:52:28,630 --> 00:52:26,990
you understand that how a second

1127
00:52:30,820 --> 00:52:28,640
fraction of a second of access to a

1128
00:52:32,140 --> 00:52:30,830
certain state of mind can change your

1129
00:52:33,910 --> 00:52:32,150
life can make you move out of your

1130
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:33,920
trailer house into a big house up on the

1131
00:52:39,550 --> 00:52:36,770
hills with a big swimming pool access to

1132
00:52:41,890 --> 00:52:39,560
these certain states of creativity were

1133
00:52:43,210 --> 00:52:41,900
what entire governments were based on in

1134
00:52:44,860 --> 00:52:43,220
Egypt and the Maya

1135
00:52:46,390 --> 00:52:44,870
you know the whole government there

1136
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:46,400
would be people that took mushrooms and

1137
00:52:50,740 --> 00:52:48,650
did forecasts while they were whacked on

1138
00:52:53,230 --> 00:52:50,750
magic mushrooms right there

1139
00:52:55,180 --> 00:52:53,240
this reverence for the mysteries of the

1140
00:52:56,380 --> 00:52:55,190
inner universe of consciousness are one

1141
00:52:58,510 --> 00:52:56,390
of the things that all these old

1142
00:53:00,110 --> 00:52:58,520
cultures had in common and so when our

1143
00:53:02,780 --> 00:53:00,120
research groups started finding the

1144
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:02,790
same references to the same science in

1145
00:53:07,850 --> 00:53:04,890
the Mayan and Aztec cultures in the

1146
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:07,860
Hindu Vedanta cultures the yogic

1147
00:53:12,590 --> 00:53:09,690
cultures and the taoist you know Far

1148
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:12,600
Eastern cultures they not only all were

1149
00:53:17,330 --> 00:53:14,970
fascinated by the same type of science

1150
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:17,340
but they used art in this way that no

1151
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:19,770
other era really has used as well where

1152
00:53:22,970 --> 00:53:21,570
as an artist I was particularly

1153
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:22,980
interested in this and as a graphic

1154
00:53:27,050 --> 00:53:25,170
designer and a visual communicator there

1155
00:53:29,630 --> 00:53:27,060
was this period of time where art and

1156
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:29,640
science were fused beautifully and

1157
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:32,970
perfectly and so utterly symbiotic that

1158
00:53:36,050 --> 00:53:34,410
you realize there are certain kinds of

1159
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:36,060
science that you'll never understand if

1160
00:53:39,830 --> 00:53:37,770
you read them in linear language but I

1161
00:53:40,940 --> 00:53:39,840
can draw you a schematic just like I

1162
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:40,950
could draw you a schematic of your

1163
00:53:47,240 --> 00:53:43,890
toaster or your you know 1932 Edsel or

1164
00:53:49,460 --> 00:53:47,250
whatever that allows you to understand

1165
00:53:50,810 --> 00:53:49,470
how this mechanism works and I don't

1166
00:53:52,700 --> 00:53:50,820
know about you but I was never given an

1167
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:52,710
owner's manual for this just super

1168
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:54,450
complicated thing up in my head

1169
00:53:57,140 --> 00:53:55,890
right I know all kinds of things to do

1170
00:53:59,690 --> 00:53:57,150
to kill it but I don't know anything to

1171
00:54:01,460 --> 00:53:59,700
do to make it better or make it act act

1172
00:54:04,220 --> 00:54:01,470
better give me access to these moments

1173
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:04,230
that are career shifting and humanity

1174
00:54:10,460 --> 00:54:08,370
shifting moments of insight but in the

1175
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:10,470
past in all of ancient cultures not just

1176
00:54:13,900 --> 00:54:12,210
ancient Egypt there seems to be not only

1177
00:54:17,660 --> 00:54:13,910
the science that understood

1178
00:54:19,670 --> 00:54:17,670
consciousness but that used art to

1179
00:54:21,770 --> 00:54:19,680
convey this consciousness or to the

1180
00:54:23,860 --> 00:54:21,780
science of consciousness and they used

1181
00:54:26,690 --> 00:54:23,870
it not just art but statuary and

1182
00:54:28,970 --> 00:54:26,700
architecture so in the magical Egypt

1183
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:28,980
series the seed that started the magical

1184
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:31,410
Egypt series was this discovery that the

1185
00:54:35,300 --> 00:54:33,450
front pylon of an Egyptian temple this

1186
00:54:37,940 --> 00:54:35,310
iconic front facade of an Egyptian

1187
00:54:39,710 --> 00:54:37,950
temple is itself a kind of schematic

1188
00:54:41,690 --> 00:54:39,720
where if you put it over the human brain

1189
00:54:43,820 --> 00:54:41,700
it actually points to all these special

1190
00:54:44,750 --> 00:54:43,830
places in the brain and it's all the

1191
00:54:47,210 --> 00:54:44,760
parts of the brain that produce

1192
00:54:48,710 --> 00:54:47,220
consciousness including the most central

1193
00:54:51,140 --> 00:54:48,720
thing that produces consciousness we

1194
00:54:52,550 --> 00:54:51,150
would just consider the third eye where

1195
00:54:54,650 --> 00:54:52,560
the pineal gland and pituitary and

1196
00:54:56,180 --> 00:54:54,660
thalamus all meet which actually looks

1197
00:54:59,600 --> 00:54:56,190
like an eye you've probably seen that

1198
00:55:01,640 --> 00:54:59,610
I'm holding it the science focuses on

1199
00:55:03,590 --> 00:55:01,650
that area that produces consciousness

1200
00:55:04,490 --> 00:55:03,600
yeah so when you look at it you know the

1201
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:04,500
you know the famous

1202
00:55:08,900 --> 00:55:07,050
eye of wha right the eye I'm holding I

1203
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:08,910
have one here I'm holding up to the

1204
00:55:14,900 --> 00:55:12,810
camera that's the pineal gland

1205
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:14,910
it's the pine you're exactly right and

1206
00:55:22,910 --> 00:55:18,770
in architecture in art in sacred

1207
00:55:26,090 --> 00:55:22,920
statuary art and architecture in the Far

1208
00:55:28,340 --> 00:55:26,100
East the Near East and in the West this

1209
00:55:31,130 --> 00:55:28,350
seems to be this common secret that

1210
00:55:32,660 --> 00:55:31,140
people either haven't noticed our aren't

1211
00:55:34,580 --> 00:55:32,670
drawing attention to and that's kind of

1212
00:55:36,590 --> 00:55:34,590
just like a pylon is the gateway that

1213
00:55:38,750 --> 00:55:36,600
you enter the temple this particular

1214
00:55:40,580 --> 00:55:38,760
type of art is the gateway through which

1215
00:55:42,650 --> 00:55:40,590
you enter into this science of

1216
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:42,660
understanding your own psyche but more

1217
00:55:45,290 --> 00:55:43,890
importantly understanding that there's

1218
00:55:47,810 --> 00:55:45,300
parts of your psyche that you don't even

1219
00:55:49,490 --> 00:55:47,820
know about so that's why the magical

1220
00:55:50,900 --> 00:55:49,500
Egypt new series starts with this idea

1221
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:50,910
that there's a door in your head that no

1222
00:55:57,950 --> 00:55:54,690
one told you about well yeah I almost

1223
00:56:00,320 --> 00:55:57,960
went in another direction but we've got

1224
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:00,330
two minutes before the break when you

1225
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:02,690
and your artists were sitting around

1226
00:56:11,530 --> 00:56:06,930
contemplating the pineal gland and the

1227
00:56:14,720 --> 00:56:11,540
eye of rah and you start to make this

1228
00:56:17,090 --> 00:56:14,730
Anatomy connection what went through

1229
00:56:19,970 --> 00:56:17,100
your heads because it's so obvious once

1230
00:56:23,720 --> 00:56:19,980
you see it right once you see it let me

1231
00:56:27,530 --> 00:56:23,730
see the dissection that that had to have

1232
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:27,540
been the craziest epiphany ever epiphany

1233
00:56:32,210 --> 00:56:29,970
is exactly the right word I felt like I

1234
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:32,220
had just brought a toaster into the

1235
00:56:35,900 --> 00:56:33,930
bathtub with me I literally felt

1236
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:35,910
electrified our research group was

1237
00:56:38,240 --> 00:56:36,930
interesting because there was three of

1238
00:56:40,010 --> 00:56:38,250
us and we all came to it from different

1239
00:56:41,090 --> 00:56:40,020
ways it was like these three animals in

1240
00:56:43,430 --> 00:56:41,100
the desert that all came to the same

1241
00:56:45,260 --> 00:56:43,440
watering hole and we kept noticing each

1242
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:45,270
other there so I came to it through my

1243
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:46,770
pioneer Glen

1244
00:56:51,140 --> 00:56:49,770
discovery of the pylon gary osborne came

1245
00:56:53,330 --> 00:56:51,150
to it through his discovery of the eye

1246
00:56:56,270 --> 00:56:53,340
of roth it's that very publicized side

1247
00:56:58,370 --> 00:56:56,280
shot and then Brad Claussen came to it

1248
00:56:59,900 --> 00:56:58,380
through another finding so we all proved

1249
00:57:02,390 --> 00:56:59,910
the same thing but we all use different

1250
00:57:03,770 --> 00:57:02,400
examples of art to prove it and then

1251
00:57:05,750 --> 00:57:03,780
once we got together and start sharing

1252
00:57:08,300 --> 00:57:05,760
notes the whole thing blew wide open and

1253
00:57:10,580 --> 00:57:08,310
within about a week we'd realized we

1254
00:57:12,740 --> 00:57:10,590
have not only a series here but we have

1255
00:57:15,020 --> 00:57:12,750
several series worth of fantastic

1256
00:57:17,420 --> 00:57:15,030
information that is legitimate science

1257
00:57:19,250 --> 00:57:17,430
it's a strange thing when artists are

1258
00:57:20,900 --> 00:57:19,260
called upon to present science but in

1259
00:57:22,460 --> 00:57:20,910
the spirit of ancient Egypt there's

1260
00:57:25,230 --> 00:57:22,470
never been a time where art and science

1261
00:57:27,990 --> 00:57:25,240
were more perfectly intertwined

1262
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:28,000
to transmit this message and the message

1263
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:29,050
is interesting because it's hidden in

1264
00:57:33,420 --> 00:57:31,570
plain sight and everyone sees it but

1265
00:57:34,650 --> 00:57:33,430
it's like a puzzle that no one's soft

1266
00:57:36,780 --> 00:57:34,660
like the sword in the stone everyone

1267
00:57:38,670 --> 00:57:36,790
steps up to pull the sword out and some

1268
00:57:40,050 --> 00:57:38,680
lucky person pulls it out and you know

1269
00:57:42,030 --> 00:57:40,060
not only does their life change but the

1270
00:57:43,980 --> 00:57:42,040
whole kingdom changes it's a perfect

1271
00:57:45,690 --> 00:57:43,990
spot here to take a break and we'll pick

1272
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:45,700
this up when we come back our guest

1273
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:47,410
tonight chance Gardner we're talking

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00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:50,890
about episode 5 of magical Egypt series

1275
00:57:55,710 --> 00:57:53,410
2 yeah it's finished

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00:57:57,690 --> 00:57:55,720
hey chance well you know what I'll ask

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you when we come back stay right there

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order today chance Gardner is our guest

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chance director of magical Egypt one and

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two series one and two I don't even know

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how to call it I guess it's series one

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and two right now I want to get correct

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or is it just magically gypped one and

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magical Egypt too well each series has a

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number of episodes in it so the first

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episode for series of magical Egypt that

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happened back in 1999-2000 had nine

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episodes and then I took a big long nap

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and then this new one has five episodes

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so far there's gonna be a run of six and

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then we start series three which is all

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about the great pyramids because as you

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know there's so much in the great

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pyramids deserves its own series right

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has to yeah that that one's gonna be

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about 40 episodes

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I can't wait and hopefully I get to tag

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along for that ride I wanted to ask you

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this a really quick is there gonna be a

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promo code for the fete or not there is

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a promo code and that promo code is fade

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to black

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hey is that the number 2 or tío fade

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number 2 FTE number 2 is black one was

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an interesting thing to weave episode 6

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is essentially finished now and because

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of how much information came to light is

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we are putting together the end of the

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series we have a special episode that's

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episode 7 but it's going to be

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restricted access because it's extremely

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taboo and it's activity based and it's

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won't be commercially available but it

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will be available to the people who've

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bought the series before episode 7 comes

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out so speaking of promo codes and stuff

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we've we've

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built in a number of awesome incentives

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and a couple of real nuggets of

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forbidden gold for people who like to

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take advantage of oh man you've got me

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hooked right there okay so it's fade to

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black one word with the number two

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correct

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fade to black all right everybody just

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go and and get it when is Episode five

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release it is done right this moment as

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we sit here I'm a broken husk of a man

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I've been awake for this last month and

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it is finished right now I think that

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it's going through the duplication and

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printing and stuff so I believe it'll be

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commercially available thursday or

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friday for streaming and DVD it's

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amazing I mean just amazing I mean my

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expectations are so high and it was

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right there

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I appreciate people Jimmy's the only one

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who sees so I was really wondering you

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never know you know until someone says

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something if it's a work of just utter

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insanity or something else and thank you

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very much for those kind words Jim well

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you know and that that promo that you

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guys did with me I just makes me laugh

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every time is one of my proudest moments

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you know your stature saying something

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nice about the show that was awesome I

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did it was from the heart you know I

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said it just exactly how I feel and and

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I remember and I'm not kidding I'll

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repeat it it which is this when I was

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watching read and I had an apartment in

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North Hollywood back in 2003 and I was

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watching this is like looking over my

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shoulder waiting for that front door to

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get kicked down you know this is like I

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was that I just thought it was that

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groundbreaking you know and and I was

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waiting for my DVD player to burn up you

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know like Mission Impossible

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so now let's get let's get back to where

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we were I think this you brought up an

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important point which I find fascinating

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which is it took artists to figure this

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out it wasn't the scientific community

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was an archaeologist it wasn't

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Egyptologist it was the the artist crowd

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that figured out some of these amazing

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connections

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and isn't that fascinating almost done

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by design I would think it is a boy

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that's a really insightful thing that

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last thing he said it is as if this

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message was encrypted in a way that only

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artists would understand it and it's not

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just art that Egypt speaks through I

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should point that out when you listen to

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Robert Bauval talk about the pyramid the

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pyramid speaks through math there's some

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incredibly complicated math that has to

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do with physical constants the speed of

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light and all these things that the

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Great Pyramid incorporates and so

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mathematicians have come along and you

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know say what you want about saw here

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any of the Egyptology just they're all

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fine you know upstanding people

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god-fearing taxpayers and all that but

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they they have a very limited speciality

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and not many of them are doing really

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high level math and so it makes sense

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that a mathematician is going to come

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along and see things in the math that no

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Egyptologist is going to be doing

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differential equations or you know

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probability and statistics in school and

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so they just don't speak one of the

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languages that Egypt speaks in art

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speaks there are so many different

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languages that art speaks in it speaks

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in symbolism of course but there are

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these things like negative space have

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you ever seen that picture of like when

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you look at it it's an old lady but then

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you shift your eyes it's actually a

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young girl sitting with a rabbit on a

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park or you know those pictures that can

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look like one thing and that that same

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picture looks like something else too

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Salvador Dali used to do this a lot you

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have these groupings in a picture that

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look like one thing when you first walk

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up to it and then the more you look at

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the more you realize oh there's this

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entirely other picture hidden in it it's

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something called a negative space I call

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it a cipher because this particular way

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to hide information in art is really a

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key cipher in that da Vinci Code sense

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that it's a code it's a visual a cipher

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a code a this little visual secret

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that's hidden in a picture and so we

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know that the culture in Egypt Plato and

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Pythagoras and all of these intelligent

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people ever since dynastic Egypt have

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all sort of had this understanding that

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if they could get to Egypt and somehow

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absorb the keys to understanding the

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message then they would have access to

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this in

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profound science that teaches you about

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01:08:40,669 --> 01:08:38,699
the structure and nature of

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consciousness and not about the physical

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world but about the invisible things

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that form the visible world and so when

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you understand that there is a message

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here and then when you read traditional

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Egyptology interpretation of the message

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it's rendered this kind of immaterial

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thing it's all proto religion and mythos

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and aren't they cute you know they

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wanted to say something to make them

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feel better about the afterlife and so

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if you come at this without all of those

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institutional presuppositions and with

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without being poisoned by this you know

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one culture or another if you come at it

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01:09:18,620 --> 01:09:15,359
with an open mind and you're just

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earning the techniques of the art and

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the message of the art of course you

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need to know the message of the art to

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understand the art so none of us were

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looking to turn Egyptology on its ear or

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make anybody else look bad it's just

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that as I've said if you're an artist

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you understand that art speaks through

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all these languages and well if you know

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01:09:37,010 --> 01:09:35,130
how to speak that language then there's

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no ifs ands or buts about what the

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message is and that's why you know Egypt

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01:09:45,799 --> 01:09:43,739
is such a rich an intelligent subject in

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01:09:48,410 --> 01:09:45,809
such a mystery and so much like a downed

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01:09:49,729 --> 01:09:48,420
UFO that instead of assuming that we

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01:09:51,349 --> 01:09:49,739
know everything there is and it can't

1540
01:09:54,740 --> 01:09:51,359
teach us anything if you come at it with

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01:09:56,359 --> 01:09:54,750
the opposite a state of mind and you

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just want to find what's there without

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01:10:00,319 --> 01:09:58,320
trying to project anything onto it it

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01:10:02,209 --> 01:10:00,329
doesn't keep it a secret it'll tell you

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01:10:05,330 --> 01:10:02,219
it had its happy to tell you and it

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01:10:06,770 --> 01:10:05,340
wants to tell you and for our purposes

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01:10:09,109 --> 01:10:06,780
what makes it especially interesting is

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that it uses beauty as this delivery

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01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:10,710
mechanism for the most important

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01:10:17,689 --> 01:10:14,610
information there is there are the parts

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01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:17,699
that feature John Anthony West in

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01:10:25,510 --> 01:10:21,210
Episode five I thought that I had heard

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01:10:28,850 --> 01:10:25,520
everything from Jaws before and and here

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01:10:31,100 --> 01:10:28,860
III stopped taking notes because I was

1555
01:10:33,290 --> 01:10:31,110
listening to what he had to say he was

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01:10:36,770 --> 01:10:33,300
addressing exactly what we're talking

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01:10:40,700 --> 01:10:36,780
about right now and but it was it was

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01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:40,710
fresh how much stuff do you have of Jaws

1559
01:10:45,709 --> 01:10:43,650
like that in your archives what are you

1560
01:10:46,790 --> 01:10:45,719
sitting up for the entire time since

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01:10:48,049 --> 01:10:46,800
magically Jim John

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01:10:49,669 --> 01:10:48,059
I obviously became really close because

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01:10:51,919 --> 01:10:49,679
we spent so much time in Egypt and he

1564
01:10:53,390 --> 01:10:51,929
was already just he was like my Grateful

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01:10:55,549 --> 01:10:53,400
Dead I would follow him around just

1566
01:10:57,700 --> 01:10:55,559
before even anybody asked me to a report

1567
01:10:59,870 --> 01:10:57,710
it was even an official project I just

1568
01:11:01,160 --> 01:10:59,880
started following the guy around and I

1569
01:11:02,780 --> 01:11:01,170
just for some reason you know how you

1570
01:11:04,669 --> 01:11:02,790
meet people sometimes you know that your

1571
01:11:06,799 --> 01:11:04,679
fate is tied up with them and and I

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01:11:08,569 --> 01:11:06,809
without completely knowing why I would

1573
01:11:10,970 --> 01:11:08,579
really follow him around and it clicked

1574
01:11:12,850 --> 01:11:10,980
really early on that I was incomplete as

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01:11:16,189 --> 01:11:12,860
an artist because I didn't understand

1576
01:11:18,799 --> 01:11:16,199
what is the most accomplished artistic

1577
01:11:21,229 --> 01:11:18,809
delivery in the history of humanity and

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01:11:22,339 --> 01:11:21,239
so when John would show me these things

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01:11:25,339 --> 01:11:22,349
he would always say it from a different

1580
01:11:27,410 --> 01:11:25,349
standpoint he kind of looked at it in a

1581
01:11:30,620 --> 01:11:27,420
different way and he called it sacred

1582
01:11:32,750 --> 01:11:30,630
and he called it theological I started

1583
01:11:35,540 --> 01:11:32,760
noticing from the way that he described

1584
01:11:38,060 --> 01:11:35,550
art to me that what's the difference

1585
01:11:39,500 --> 01:11:38,070
between a science enough in a philosophy

1586
01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:39,510
is that one is a bunch of people talking

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01:11:42,200 --> 01:11:40,770
about something and another one is

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01:11:43,910 --> 01:11:42,210
something that actually works it

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01:11:45,589 --> 01:11:43,920
actually does something to you or

1590
01:11:47,810 --> 01:11:45,599
actually has some effect or it's used as

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01:11:49,819 --> 01:11:47,820
a tool and so John was really

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01:11:52,100 --> 01:11:49,829
instrumental and showing me that this is

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01:11:54,859 --> 01:11:52,110
a technology this isn't just art and

1594
01:11:57,799 --> 01:11:54,869
it's not just theology it's a technology

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01:11:59,510 --> 01:11:57,809
and it's a technology that allows you to

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01:12:01,760 --> 01:11:59,520
do things in your own life that are on

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01:12:04,660 --> 01:12:01,770
par with those amazing expressions of

1598
01:12:08,120 --> 01:12:04,670
genius that we see in ancient Egypt the

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01:12:12,500 --> 01:12:08,130
ability for him to realize early on now

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01:12:15,530 --> 01:12:12,510
look he studied it and he had a Schaller

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01:12:19,669 --> 01:12:15,540
and and others shallow to to reference

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01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:19,679
to but he understood that the word

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01:12:25,430 --> 01:12:22,770
symbol or symbolist and symbol as Egypt

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01:12:27,799 --> 01:12:25,440
was the most important aspect and he's

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01:12:30,229 --> 01:12:27,809
to drive that home for for me he said go

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01:12:32,839 --> 01:12:30,239
dude you're missing the point you're

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01:12:35,149 --> 01:12:32,849
missing the point he realized that early

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01:12:37,939 --> 01:12:35,159
on and he's able to convey that but I'm

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01:12:39,859 --> 01:12:37,949
not sure he's able to speak it but I'm

1610
01:12:42,350 --> 01:12:39,869
not sure that everybody understands

1611
01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:42,360
exactly what he's trying to say it's

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01:12:48,109 --> 01:12:46,170
about the symbolism it's symbolist it's

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01:12:50,330 --> 01:12:48,119
very much like that old metaphor of the

1614
01:12:52,339 --> 01:12:50,340
blind men and the elephant that all

1615
01:12:53,689 --> 01:12:52,349
these blind men come up to an elephant

1616
01:12:55,490 --> 01:12:53,699
in each one are standing at a different

1617
01:12:57,049 --> 01:12:55,500
part so the one who's standing at the

1618
01:12:59,030 --> 01:12:57,059
trunk says well the elephant is like a

1619
01:12:59,990 --> 01:12:59,040
snake and the one that's standing by his

1620
01:13:01,730 --> 01:13:00,000
legs says no the

1621
01:13:03,260 --> 01:13:01,740
it's like a tree and the one that's

1622
01:13:05,930 --> 01:13:03,270
standing by his ribcage says no the

1623
01:13:07,190 --> 01:13:05,940
elephant's like a big wall and the one

1624
01:13:09,770 --> 01:13:07,200
that's standing at the tail is like no

1625
01:13:11,450 --> 01:13:09,780
the elephant is like a rope and everyone

1626
01:13:12,890 --> 01:13:11,460
comes to it from their own perspective

1627
01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:12,900
and they see the things that they can

1628
01:13:19,220 --> 01:13:17,130
see and if you look at this from a you

1629
01:13:20,930 --> 01:13:19,230
know non personal perspective the

1630
01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:20,940
elephant is all of those things at once

1631
01:13:27,470 --> 01:13:24,570
and John had this knack first of all

1632
01:13:30,470 --> 01:13:27,480
John took swallered Olympics who is an

1633
01:13:33,020 --> 01:13:30,480
alchemist prewar you know the guy was

1634
01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:33,030
writing before World War two even

1635
01:13:36,650 --> 01:13:35,850
happened shuang'er de Lubich side on't

1636
01:13:38,870 --> 01:13:36,660
know if you know much about the

1637
01:13:43,670 --> 01:13:38,880
Theosophical society but Annie Besant

1638
01:13:45,200 --> 01:13:43,680
and all of these esoteric and occult

1639
01:13:46,970 --> 01:13:45,210
personalities and all of them are just

1640
01:13:50,180 --> 01:13:46,980
absolute geniuses around the turn of the

1641
01:13:52,070 --> 01:13:50,190
century there was this very thriving

1642
01:13:55,250 --> 01:13:52,080
community in America and all over the

1643
01:13:57,980 --> 01:13:55,260
world that started looking at what we

1644
01:13:59,870 --> 01:13:57,990
now call occultism as instead of this

1645
01:14:03,590 --> 01:13:59,880
taboo thing that religion forbids us to

1646
01:14:06,380 --> 01:14:03,600
do it's this body of information seems

1647
01:14:08,390 --> 01:14:06,390
to have always been there and it is

1648
01:14:10,730 --> 01:14:08,400
embodied in these temples but it's not

1649
01:14:12,680 --> 01:14:10,740
to this theoretical stuff this is an

1650
01:14:14,360 --> 01:14:12,690
actual science that teaches you how to

1651
01:14:16,010 --> 01:14:14,370
do things and it's a science that

1652
01:14:17,660 --> 01:14:16,020
instead of working with test tubes and

1653
01:14:20,890 --> 01:14:17,670
robots and stuff that teaches you the

1654
01:14:24,110 --> 01:14:20,900
tools to explore this bizarre inner

1655
01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:24,120
universe that we all haven't in the West

1656
01:14:28,790 --> 01:14:26,730
nobody really became aware or fascinated

1657
01:14:30,860 --> 01:14:28,800
with this until the introduction of LSD

1658
01:14:33,170 --> 01:14:30,870
and even you know marijuana and things

1659
01:14:36,350 --> 01:14:33,180
that force your eyes instead of looking

1660
01:14:37,640 --> 01:14:36,360
out to look inward and I think maybe we

1661
01:14:40,850 --> 01:14:37,650
would have never understood how

1662
01:14:43,400 --> 01:14:40,860
important it was had not LSD happened to

1663
01:14:46,100 --> 01:14:43,410
Western culture and then John West

1664
01:14:47,960 --> 01:14:46,110
himself by translating swallowed

1665
01:14:50,090 --> 01:14:47,970
Olympics books which were incredibly

1666
01:14:52,130 --> 01:14:50,100
complicated incredibly smart and I think

1667
01:14:54,050 --> 01:14:52,140
only John west could have done what he

1668
01:14:56,210 --> 01:14:54,060
did to make them as palatable as he did

1669
01:14:58,130 --> 01:14:56,220
and so part of communicating to the

1670
01:15:00,650 --> 01:14:58,140
public is that you just can't start

1671
01:15:02,090 --> 01:15:00,660
talking about high level math or she's

1672
01:15:05,180 --> 01:15:02,100
incredibly scientific things with most

1673
01:15:07,250 --> 01:15:05,190
people John's real genius was to be able

1674
01:15:09,290 --> 01:15:07,260
to articulate these incredibly

1675
01:15:11,210 --> 01:15:09,300
intelligent ideas in this way that

1676
01:15:12,410 --> 01:15:11,220
everyone understood and

1677
01:15:14,330 --> 01:15:12,420
what a lot of people don't know about

1678
01:15:16,190 --> 01:15:14,340
him is he he was very aboveboard and

1679
01:15:19,910 --> 01:15:16,200
very scientific in nature but he was a

1680
01:15:22,490 --> 01:15:19,920
repository about of a cults lore and

1681
01:15:23,960 --> 01:15:22,500
symbolism so he really was assemble a

1682
01:15:26,450 --> 01:15:23,970
stand although he didn't talk about

1683
01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:26,460
unless you really dug down

1684
01:15:30,740 --> 01:15:29,130
he knew the Tarot inside and out he

1685
01:15:33,440 --> 01:15:30,750
knows the alchemical traditions and so

1686
01:15:34,820 --> 01:15:33,450
John was always his gold mine for me but

1687
01:15:37,190 --> 01:15:34,830
sometimes it was like pulling teeth to

1688
01:15:39,020 --> 01:15:37,200
get him to talk about it because I in

1689
01:15:41,300 --> 01:15:39,030
magical Egypt is this weird baby between

1690
01:15:43,400 --> 01:15:41,310
John and I where John has this vast body

1691
01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:43,410
of knowledge and I kept asking him to

1692
01:15:47,770 --> 01:15:45,690
dig into areas that would help

1693
01:15:52,130 --> 01:15:47,780
illuminate the occult traditions because

1694
01:15:54,950 --> 01:15:52,140
you know alchemy and Kabbalah and the

1695
01:15:57,560 --> 01:15:54,960
Tarot and all of these subsequent visual

1696
01:16:00,080 --> 01:15:57,570
symbol systems are all telling the same

1697
01:16:02,860 --> 01:16:00,090
story that originates in Egypt but for

1698
01:16:07,730 --> 01:16:02,870
some reason that just the massive

1699
01:16:09,800 --> 01:16:07,740
footprint of modern Western religion has

1700
01:16:12,590 --> 01:16:09,810
cast this shadow over the entire subject

1701
01:16:14,450 --> 01:16:12,600
and miscategorized this most important

1702
01:16:16,490 --> 01:16:14,460
information into something it's of the

1703
01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:16,500
devil it's of the snake it's it's it's

1704
01:16:21,860 --> 01:16:18,330
bad for you you should stay away from it

1705
01:16:24,350 --> 01:16:21,870
at all costs and and John had an even

1706
01:16:27,260 --> 01:16:24,360
handedness enough to show that look if

1707
01:16:29,630 --> 01:16:27,270
you disregard all of that hysteria this

1708
01:16:30,770 --> 01:16:29,640
is not anything taboo it's not something

1709
01:16:32,510 --> 01:16:30,780
that should be forbidden this is

1710
01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:32,520
something that you're not really a

1711
01:16:37,130 --> 01:16:34,530
finished person intellectually until you

1712
01:16:38,360 --> 01:16:37,140
understand this way of thinking so

1713
01:16:39,860 --> 01:16:38,370
operating system that's what I wanted to

1714
01:16:40,850 --> 01:16:39,870
get to this is an operating system in

1715
01:16:42,710 --> 01:16:40,860
the same way that you have a Mac

1716
01:16:44,810 --> 01:16:42,720
operating system or any other computer

1717
01:16:46,790 --> 01:16:44,820
and so if you can do an upgrade to your

1718
01:16:49,790 --> 01:16:46,800
own operating system by installing that

1719
01:16:51,890 --> 01:16:49,800
Egypt's 2.0 instead of Western world 1.0

1720
01:16:53,750 --> 01:16:51,900
it makes you physically smarter and

1721
01:16:56,180 --> 01:16:53,760
makes you better at whatever you do and

1722
01:16:57,920 --> 01:16:56,190
that was one of John's that's certainly

1723
01:16:59,240 --> 01:16:57,930
how he changed my life and how this

1724
01:17:00,770 --> 01:16:59,250
information seems to be changing the

1725
01:17:04,370 --> 01:17:00,780
lives of people that really engage with

1726
01:17:08,330 --> 01:17:04,380
it how do you think it happened where

1727
01:17:10,220 --> 01:17:08,340
the decline in Egypt which you know

1728
01:17:12,830 --> 01:17:10,230
you've obviously documented and

1729
01:17:15,890 --> 01:17:12,840
witnessed the decline where they started

1730
01:17:18,560 --> 01:17:15,900
off at the top of the heap and and just

1731
01:17:22,640 --> 01:17:18,570
completely declined was it the invasions

1732
01:17:25,850 --> 01:17:22,650
from Persia and Greece and

1733
01:17:29,260 --> 01:17:25,860
Rome that that caused the amnesia from

1734
01:17:32,330 --> 01:17:29,270
everything that they accumulated before

1735
01:17:33,680 --> 01:17:32,340
there is an entire episode at some point

1736
01:17:34,760 --> 01:17:33,690
that we actually have about half

1737
01:17:36,620 --> 01:17:34,770
finished right now where different

1738
01:17:38,479 --> 01:17:36,630
people talk about different reasons for

1739
01:17:40,220 --> 01:17:38,489
that decline there was clearly a decline

1740
01:17:41,870 --> 01:17:40,230
the stuff at the beginning of Egypt the

1741
01:17:44,240 --> 01:17:41,880
stuff at the beginning of Sumeria way

1742
01:17:46,280 --> 01:17:44,250
before Babylon was even a word boy this

1743
01:17:47,930 --> 01:17:46,290
stuff is a very big hint element in Far

1744
01:17:49,490 --> 01:17:47,940
East you know the i-ching is so old that

1745
01:17:52,550 --> 01:17:49,500
no one knows where it comes from there

1746
01:17:53,990 --> 01:17:52,560
are these incredibly like almost

1747
01:17:56,120 --> 01:17:54,000
unfathomable intellectual

1748
01:17:58,490 --> 01:17:56,130
accomplishments that come from so long

1749
01:17:59,959 --> 01:17:58,500
ago that our history has been erased or

1750
01:18:01,669 --> 01:17:59,969
forgotten which is why we keep saying

1751
01:18:04,070 --> 01:18:01,679
you know forgotten history and science

1752
01:18:06,350 --> 01:18:04,080
and so we can see things like the

1753
01:18:08,810 --> 01:18:06,360
pyramids and the temples in the in Egypt

1754
01:18:10,399 --> 01:18:08,820
some of the Vedantic temples just

1755
01:18:12,470 --> 01:18:10,409
absolutely insane and even now modern

1756
01:18:14,090 --> 01:18:12,480
Taoist temples are this sort of didactic

1757
01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:14,100
art where if you actually look at a

1758
01:18:18,260 --> 01:18:16,650
Taoist temple it's this 3d sculpture

1759
01:18:20,600 --> 01:18:18,270
that teaches you how to do this certain

1760
01:18:22,220 --> 01:18:20,610
kind of Tantra that through sexuality

1761
01:18:24,350 --> 01:18:22,230
opens up parts of your consciousness

1762
01:18:26,240 --> 01:18:24,360
it's the coolest most counterculture

1763
01:18:28,700 --> 01:18:26,250
thing you could ever imagine and it is

1764
01:18:30,919 --> 01:18:28,710
what these churches radiate it's what

1765
01:18:32,780 --> 01:18:30,929
the ancient art radiates and this

1766
01:18:37,459 --> 01:18:32,790
science of understanding ourselves and

1767
01:18:40,820 --> 01:18:37,469
understanding consciousness is has

1768
01:18:42,919 --> 01:18:40,830
become this sort of big taboo and one of

1769
01:18:44,990 --> 01:18:42,929
the things that we hope to do is to say

1770
01:18:46,370 --> 01:18:45,000
that this really is something more akin

1771
01:18:48,459 --> 01:18:46,380
as I keep saying you don't work into a

1772
01:18:54,169 --> 01:18:48,469
crashed UFO then a bunch of outdated

1773
01:18:56,689 --> 01:18:54,179
ideas the didactic is a very important

1774
01:19:00,110 --> 01:18:56,699
word here to give our audience the

1775
01:19:02,750 --> 01:19:00,120
definition didactic simply means to

1776
01:19:04,550 --> 01:19:02,760
teach it's something that's meant to

1777
01:19:06,500 --> 01:19:04,560
teach so oftentimes when you see a

1778
01:19:08,120 --> 01:19:06,510
cartoon in the New York Times the point

1779
01:19:09,919 --> 01:19:08,130
of that cartoon isn't to be funny it's

1780
01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:09,929
through the use of humor it gives you an

1781
01:19:15,979 --> 01:19:13,530
insight into something so in episode 2

1782
01:19:17,720 --> 01:19:15,989
of the new series Brad Claussen is this

1783
01:19:19,820 --> 01:19:17,730
amazing artist and very famous

1784
01:19:21,649 --> 01:19:19,830
illustrator and he shows this simple

1785
01:19:23,030 --> 01:19:21,659
statue that everyone's seen everyone

1786
01:19:26,090 --> 01:19:23,040
walks by it on your way into karnak

1787
01:19:28,160 --> 01:19:26,100
temple and it's a random with its horns

1788
01:19:29,630 --> 01:19:28,170
in a certain configuration underneath

1789
01:19:31,399 --> 01:19:29,640
the ram's chin there's a little statue

1790
01:19:33,110 --> 01:19:31,409
and the statue is doing things under the

1791
01:19:34,200 --> 01:19:33,120
ram's chin and then down under this

1792
01:19:36,930 --> 01:19:34,210
platform Brad

1793
01:19:38,820 --> 01:19:36,940
Claussen showed that this statue is not

1794
01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:38,830
just a pretty statue of a ram but if you

1795
01:19:42,630 --> 01:19:40,930
take that picture and set it right next

1796
01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:42,640
to a picture of the human brain stem and

1797
01:19:48,120 --> 01:19:45,690
the human brain this statue is an exact

1798
01:19:49,290 --> 01:19:48,130
replication of the brain stem which is

1799
01:19:51,750 --> 01:19:49,300
the most you know one of the most

1800
01:19:54,330 --> 01:19:51,760
important parts of our perception of

1801
01:19:56,550 --> 01:19:54,340
consciousness and so if it were just a

1802
01:19:58,440 --> 01:19:56,560
beautiful picture on the wall of a

1803
01:20:00,660 --> 01:19:58,450
Velvet Elvis a something like that or a

1804
01:20:02,580 --> 01:20:00,670
dogs playing poker it has this certain

1805
01:20:07,350 --> 01:20:02,590
value in aesthetics it's a pretty low

1806
01:20:09,660 --> 01:20:07,360
value but the art in the past whether it

1807
01:20:11,220 --> 01:20:09,670
be temples or statues or sacred art was

1808
01:20:13,680 --> 01:20:11,230
didactic which means it was meant to

1809
01:20:16,229 --> 01:20:13,690
teach so if you understand the keys to

1810
01:20:18,060 --> 01:20:16,239
understanding the symbolism art was the

1811
01:20:20,070 --> 01:20:18,070
old books before there was written

1812
01:20:21,750 --> 01:20:20,080
language there was still this art that

1813
01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:21,760
communicated these lists this

1814
01:20:25,709 --> 01:20:24,010
information and some information is too

1815
01:20:27,750 --> 01:20:25,719
technical to be transmitted in

1816
01:20:30,110 --> 01:20:27,760
two-dimensional art so they were so

1817
01:20:31,910 --> 01:20:30,120
intelligent that they actually used

1818
01:20:34,920 --> 01:20:31,920
three-dimensional artwork as a

1819
01:20:36,570 --> 01:20:34,930
three-dimensional model so as I've

1820
01:20:38,280 --> 01:20:36,580
mentioned Brad Claussen but also Gary

1821
01:20:41,010 --> 01:20:38,290
Osborne and then my own discovery of the

1822
01:20:43,830 --> 01:20:41,020
pylon in each case this art or

1823
01:20:47,010 --> 01:20:43,840
architecture or statuary was didactic

1824
01:20:49,140 --> 01:20:47,020
meaning that it taught you this series

1825
01:20:51,690 --> 01:20:49,150
of secrets or incredibly profound

1826
01:20:53,010 --> 01:20:51,700
information if you were an initiate or

1827
01:20:54,770 --> 01:20:53,020
if you were educated enough or if you're

1828
01:20:56,670 --> 01:20:54,780
just naturally intelligent enough to

1829
01:20:58,590 --> 01:20:56,680
understand that there's a puzzle there

1830
01:21:00,540 --> 01:20:58,600
that needs to be solved so the didactic

1831
01:21:02,370 --> 01:21:00,550
means to teach and the reason why the

1832
01:21:04,410 --> 01:21:02,380
initiatory structures and all

1833
01:21:06,240 --> 01:21:04,420
intelligent people have felt compelled

1834
01:21:08,910 --> 01:21:06,250
to go to Egypt is that there's a certain

1835
01:21:11,010 --> 01:21:08,920
kind of teaching and in my opinion it

1836
01:21:13,020 --> 01:21:11,020
was never raised to a higher state with

1837
01:21:15,420 --> 01:21:13,030
the synergy of art and information as

1838
01:21:17,160 --> 01:21:15,430
ancient Egypt which is this whole place

1839
01:21:18,420 --> 01:21:17,170
it's like a living book and instead of

1840
01:21:21,270 --> 01:21:18,430
you carrying the book around you walk

1841
01:21:23,459 --> 01:21:21,280
through the book much more like video

1842
01:21:25,050 --> 01:21:23,469
games in the internet of today it's it's

1843
01:21:26,790 --> 01:21:25,060
an immersive thing that you walk through

1844
01:21:33,170 --> 01:21:26,800
rather than you carry it and turn pages

1845
01:21:36,990 --> 01:21:33,180
is there a reference somewhere of

1846
01:21:40,590 --> 01:21:37,000
everything that is represented in other

1847
01:21:43,560 --> 01:21:40,600
words like dendara right and you walk

1848
01:21:45,689 --> 01:21:43,570
through where you've got pillars top to

1849
01:21:49,169 --> 01:21:45,699
bottom 50 foot tall cover

1850
01:21:51,569 --> 01:21:49,179
with information pillar after pillar

1851
01:21:54,629 --> 01:21:51,579
after pillar the ceilings the walls is

1852
01:21:57,239 --> 01:21:54,639
there is there a reference to what is

1853
01:21:59,219 --> 01:21:57,249
actually written on each one of those

1854
01:22:01,979 --> 01:21:59,229
pillars on each one of the walls on

1855
01:22:03,870 --> 01:22:01,989
everything that's on the ceiling there's

1856
01:22:06,120 --> 01:22:03,880
so many people that have been studying

1857
01:22:09,299 --> 01:22:06,130
this for so long and a lot of it is

1858
01:22:11,910 --> 01:22:09,309
misguided but a lot of it is genuine

1859
01:22:13,469 --> 01:22:11,920
there's every time I stop looking into

1860
01:22:14,729 --> 01:22:13,479
it for a year or two I'm always amazed

1861
01:22:16,680 --> 01:22:14,739
when I come back to the internet to find

1862
01:22:18,930 --> 01:22:16,690
these incredible epiphanies that people

1863
01:22:22,799 --> 01:22:18,940
have made and as you observed frequently

1864
01:22:24,149 --> 01:22:22,809
the best the best traveling forward the

1865
01:22:26,100 --> 01:22:24,159
best discoveries are made by people who

1866
01:22:28,560 --> 01:22:26,110
are outside that are outsiders to

1867
01:22:30,149 --> 01:22:28,570
Egyptology which is odd so musicians and

1868
01:22:34,140 --> 01:22:30,159
artists and mathematicians and

1869
01:22:35,759 --> 01:22:34,150
physicists and astronomers so dendara in

1870
01:22:38,879 --> 01:22:35,769
particular well first of all to answer

1871
01:22:40,439 --> 01:22:38,889
your question any tarot card system

1872
01:22:41,850 --> 01:22:40,449
where the old good tarot cards made by

1873
01:22:44,209 --> 01:22:41,860
English people MacGregor Maggert

1874
01:22:47,609 --> 01:22:44,219
MacGregor met MacGregor Mathers or

1875
01:22:51,239 --> 01:22:47,619
Arthur Edward wait or any of the Italian

1876
01:22:53,459 --> 01:22:51,249
Tarot is a collection of these symbolic

1877
01:22:55,589 --> 01:22:53,469
ideas from Egypt so if you can't make it

1878
01:22:57,750 --> 01:22:55,599
to Egypt and if you're a patient here

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this person get yourself a tarot deck

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and study the symbolism of the Major

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01:23:04,830 --> 01:23:01,719
Arcana and you'll walk away with a

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01:23:07,229 --> 01:23:04,840
pretty complete overview of what was

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01:23:10,379 --> 01:23:07,239
taught in Egypt dandera in particular

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01:23:13,350 --> 01:23:10,389
shows their fascination with the Stars

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01:23:16,229 --> 01:23:13,360
and with motion and somehow the Stars

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01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:16,239
are inexplicably not somehow it makes

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01:23:19,350 --> 01:23:18,010
sense that the Stars are wound up in our

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01:23:22,469 --> 01:23:19,360
perceptions of time and how do you

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01:23:24,299 --> 01:23:22,479
divide time and does geometry apply at a

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01:23:25,529 --> 01:23:24,309
time when you divide it like why is our

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01:23:28,140 --> 01:23:25,539
clock and our calendar and everything

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01:23:30,209 --> 01:23:28,150
divided into 12 and 60s

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01:23:32,520 --> 01:23:30,219
why is the circumference around the

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01:23:36,540 --> 01:23:32,530
earth measured in minutes you know and

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01:23:38,189 --> 01:23:36,550
and so when you go to a college you go

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01:23:40,469 --> 01:23:38,199
to a college campus there's not just one

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01:23:42,239 --> 01:23:40,479
big building there there's lots of

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01:23:43,620 --> 01:23:42,249
different buildings there's the strong

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01:23:45,350 --> 01:23:43,630
Astronomy Department there's the

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01:23:48,479 --> 01:23:45,360
mathematics department there's the

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01:23:49,979 --> 01:23:48,489
biology department so dendara in

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01:23:51,660 --> 01:23:49,989
particular is amazing because it shows

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01:23:54,270 --> 01:23:51,670
all these constellations and it talks

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01:23:57,179 --> 01:23:54,280
about how our consciousness shifts in

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01:23:58,589 --> 01:23:57,189
conjunction with the Stars and it's very

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01:23:59,220 --> 01:23:58,599
much the birthplace of what we think of

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01:24:01,920 --> 01:23:59,230
now as the straw

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01:24:04,110 --> 01:24:01,930
which has been you know greatly debased

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01:24:05,040 --> 01:24:04,120
and reduced if something stupid in the

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01:24:07,160 --> 01:24:05,050
modern time but used to be this

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01:24:10,170 --> 01:24:07,170
important thing where astronomy and

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01:24:12,479 --> 01:24:10,180
psychology were inextricably linked in

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01:24:13,950 --> 01:24:12,489
the ancient world and I think as science

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01:24:15,930 --> 01:24:13,960
progresses we're getting to back to

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01:24:17,970 --> 01:24:15,940
understanding how fluctuating magnetic

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01:24:19,020 --> 01:24:17,980
fields affect consciousness so this is

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the answer to your question before why

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01:24:22,140 --> 01:24:20,739
were they so smart it might very well

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01:24:24,420 --> 01:24:22,150
turn out to be the fluctuating magnetic

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01:24:28,050 --> 01:24:24,430
fields on the earth have an effect on

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01:24:30,180 --> 01:24:28,060
the brain and also density of oxygen

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01:24:31,620 --> 01:24:30,190
there were times in the past where the

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01:24:33,300 --> 01:24:31,630
density of oxygen on earth was much

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01:24:34,680 --> 01:24:33,310
greater and that's why I like if you go

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01:24:36,870 --> 01:24:34,690
to little Brea Tar Pits which I think

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01:24:39,270 --> 01:24:36,880
it's not far from your house you'll see

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01:24:41,280 --> 01:24:39,280
slobs and mice and little things that

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01:24:43,110 --> 01:24:41,290
are bigger than lions and tigers because

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01:24:44,670 --> 01:24:43,120
if you go back far enough to when the

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01:24:46,590 --> 01:24:44,680
globe red carpets were first active

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01:24:48,300 --> 01:24:46,600
there was a density of oxygen in the

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earth it just had this effect of making

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things bigger and I suspect that the

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01:24:54,180 --> 01:24:51,970
intelligence that came from that time

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01:24:56,280 --> 01:24:54,190
has something to do with either magnetic

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01:24:58,470 --> 01:24:56,290
fields or density of oxygen and the

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01:25:00,240 --> 01:24:58,480
third thing of this really interesting

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01:25:01,979 --> 01:25:00,250
character Tony Wright who's a

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01:25:04,350 --> 01:25:01,989
fascinating guy in his own right he'll

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01:25:06,240 --> 01:25:04,360
be coming up in a coming episode talked

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01:25:07,860 --> 01:25:06,250
about the idea that if you go back far

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01:25:09,270 --> 01:25:07,870
enough in human history we were

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01:25:11,729 --> 01:25:09,280
hunter-gatherers and we tend to eat

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01:25:15,390 --> 01:25:11,739
fresh live food we picked our food off

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01:25:17,400 --> 01:25:15,400
of trees we went out and got it and the

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01:25:19,440 --> 01:25:17,410
shift from that to an agrarian society

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01:25:22,080 --> 01:25:19,450
where we just lived on wheat all the

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01:25:25,170 --> 01:25:22,090
time there's nutritional things in wheat

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01:25:27,030 --> 01:25:25,180
and wheat based diet that kind of

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01:25:29,010 --> 01:25:27,040
atrophy certain parts of your brain that

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01:25:32,040 --> 01:25:29,020
are involved in really high intelligence

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01:25:33,570 --> 01:25:32,050
so it is actually measurable measurably

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01:25:35,490 --> 01:25:33,580
different that how the brain develops if

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01:25:37,860 --> 01:25:35,500
you eat fresh live foods your whole life

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01:25:40,440 --> 01:25:37,870
versus eating meat and grains diet and

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01:25:42,960 --> 01:25:40,450
so there are these weird little physical

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01:25:44,580 --> 01:25:42,970
effects that may have had a huge effect

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01:25:46,350 --> 01:25:44,590
on why we seem to have been so much

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01:25:47,670 --> 01:25:46,360
smarter in the past then there's also

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01:25:49,229 --> 01:25:47,680
all those amazing things like maybe it

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01:25:51,750 --> 01:25:49,239
was aliens that told us or maybe it was

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01:25:53,490 --> 01:25:51,760
you know angels or jinn or maybe the

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01:25:54,870 --> 01:25:53,500
mushrooms may be eating psychedelic

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01:25:57,000 --> 01:25:54,880
mushrooms gave us this increased

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01:25:58,710 --> 01:25:57,010
intelligence at a certain point it's one

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01:26:00,479 --> 01:25:58,720
of the questions nobody's answered but I

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01:26:02,460 --> 01:26:00,489
don't necessarily think you have to know

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01:26:04,290 --> 01:26:02,470
where the information came from like I

1969
01:26:06,000 --> 01:26:04,300
don't know where this UFO came from but

1970
01:26:08,070 --> 01:26:06,010
now I can enjoy the benefits of fiber

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01:26:10,170 --> 01:26:08,080
optics and Kevlar and whatnot because we

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01:26:12,870 --> 01:26:10,180
reverse engineered it so wherever

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01:26:14,970 --> 01:26:12,880
from I'm putting a tour in my own life

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01:26:17,390 --> 01:26:14,980
and that's part of what magical Egypt

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01:26:19,740 --> 01:26:17,400
tries to express I read the other day

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01:26:24,330 --> 01:26:19,750
interesting how you just put that about

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01:26:28,470 --> 01:26:24,340
magnetic fields today our brains are the

1978
01:26:31,260 --> 01:26:28,480
smallest they have been ever they're

1979
01:26:33,990 --> 01:26:31,270
shrinking how can I show you something

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01:26:36,030 --> 01:26:34,000
really cool we're going into these weird

1981
01:26:37,380 --> 01:26:36,040
places not because we're weirdos but

1982
01:26:38,820 --> 01:26:37,390
this is where the art and the message

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01:26:41,250 --> 01:26:38,830
are taking us there's this whole

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01:26:45,960 --> 01:26:41,260
tradition the yogic traditions of Tantra

1985
01:26:48,000 --> 01:26:45,970
and whatnot that are all about how these

1986
01:26:50,090 --> 01:26:48,010
certain types of exercises certain type

1987
01:26:52,740 --> 01:26:50,100
of diets certain types of meditation

1988
01:26:54,780 --> 01:26:52,750
amplify the natural magnetic fields that

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01:26:56,640 --> 01:26:54,790
your brain produces and literally make

1990
01:26:58,470 --> 01:26:56,650
you smarter and when you start doing

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01:27:00,210 --> 01:26:58,480
this work you start connecting to these

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01:27:02,640 --> 01:27:00,220
things that in the West we're told or

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01:27:05,970 --> 01:27:02,650
just you know craziness or supernatural

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01:27:07,620 --> 01:27:05,980
it's like epiphany intuition like really

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01:27:09,060 --> 01:27:07,630
heightened intuition or just knowing

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01:27:10,980 --> 01:27:09,070
what someone's thinking before they say

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01:27:13,470 --> 01:27:10,990
it there's these natural properties of

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01:27:16,950 --> 01:27:13,480
consciousness that are very dependent on

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01:27:20,490 --> 01:27:16,960
magnetism and you know electrochemistry

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01:27:21,930 --> 01:27:20,500
and whatnot and as in a lot of things in

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01:27:23,130 --> 01:27:21,940
Egypt the more our science progresses

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01:27:26,100 --> 01:27:23,140
and the more we understand about

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01:27:29,010 --> 01:27:26,110
ourselves the more we realize that this

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01:27:31,110 --> 01:27:29,020
obsession with unusual states of

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01:27:34,020 --> 01:27:31,120
consciousness wasn't religious but it

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01:27:35,790 --> 01:27:34,030
was very practical and was really what

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01:27:37,800 --> 01:27:35,800
was behind why they were why they were

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01:27:40,260 --> 01:27:37,810
so smart let's take a break right here

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if what I knew it was going to be this

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01:27:43,320 --> 01:27:41,950
kind of conversation tonight let's just

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keep it going

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our guest tonight chance Gardner

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director of magical Egypt magical Egypt

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and magical Egypt - see I got a right

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chance we'll be right

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magical Egypt and magical Egypt to see I

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got it right chance yeah the episode 5

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where it continues on with I want to

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stress this it's how to interpret the

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art that is going on there through

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sculpture and the hieroglyphics and and

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the the messages that are there again

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didactic and I think that it's it not

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only does it work but we are so drawn

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into the the beauty right the the

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aesthetics of it that we're trying to

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figure out the actual messages and I'm

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01:33:31,530 --> 01:33:28,330
wondering if we are getting a lot of

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01:33:34,410 --> 01:33:31,540
that subconsciously and maybe I think

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01:33:39,000 --> 01:33:34,420
that hieroglyphics have the ability to

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01:33:41,730 --> 01:33:39,010
activate it's like its software and that

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01:33:44,190 --> 01:33:41,740
that knowledge that technical level

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we're talking about allegedly Stone Age

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man and that's what is going on here and

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that's what you do so well in Episode

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five I try and let the art do what it

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01:34:00,180 --> 01:33:55,680
was supposed to do and as you said a

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01:34:02,070 --> 01:34:00,190
fantastic fantastic metaphor for this is

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01:34:03,780 --> 01:34:02,080
software I keep using that word and

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upgrade to your consciousness so I don't

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know if you remember I know you're more

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01:34:10,200 --> 01:34:07,270
or less my age when video games first

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came out like ColecoVision and Nintendo

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and remember those really simple video

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games that just had squares and blips

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and whatnot if you take a Cray computer

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you take the world's best computer the

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world's fastest computer and you install

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the operating system from an old

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Nintendo video game it'll play that old

2146
01:34:30,720 --> 01:34:28,690
Nintendo video game and it'll be great

2147
01:34:32,400 --> 01:34:30,730
it'll seem awesome if you don't know any

2148
01:34:33,959 --> 01:34:32,410
better and you'll play ping-pong you

2149
01:34:35,790 --> 01:34:33,969
know with your paddles on both sides and

2150
01:34:36,959 --> 01:34:35,800
not realizing what this computer is

2151
01:34:39,570 --> 01:34:36,969
actually capable of because you're

2152
01:34:41,520 --> 01:34:39,580
limited by the operating system if you

2153
01:34:43,650 --> 01:34:41,530
take that same computer and put a

2154
01:34:45,600 --> 01:34:43,660
Macintosh operating system on it

2155
01:34:46,709 --> 01:34:45,610
suddenly there is this all just a

2156
01:34:48,570 --> 01:34:46,719
night-and-day difference between the

2157
01:34:51,270 --> 01:34:48,580
suite of tools that you available to you

2158
01:34:53,220 --> 01:34:51,280
the capabilities of the processor and

2159
01:34:57,170 --> 01:34:53,230
even Mac is kind of a you know an

2160
01:35:00,410 --> 01:34:57,180
embarrassing limitation compared to

2161
01:35:03,870 --> 01:35:00,420
Silicon Graphics computers or Crysis

2162
01:35:06,209 --> 01:35:03,880
Tamayo that you know uses artificial

2163
01:35:07,530 --> 01:35:06,219
intelligence so our brains have always

2164
01:35:09,660 --> 01:35:07,540
been like the one thing that never

2165
01:35:11,700 --> 01:35:09,670
changes fashion changes the stars are

2166
01:35:13,680 --> 01:35:11,710
always rotating technology changes

2167
01:35:15,870 --> 01:35:13,690
architectural styles change but the

2168
01:35:18,330 --> 01:35:15,880
structure of human consciousness never

2169
01:35:20,040 --> 01:35:18,340
changes and this weird machinery that we

2170
01:35:22,830 --> 01:35:20,050
have the only thing that changes is the

2171
01:35:25,590 --> 01:35:22,840
operating system that we run on this

2172
01:35:27,600 --> 01:35:25,600
computer by the way so the question you

2173
01:35:29,580 --> 01:35:27,610
asked me right before the break are we

2174
01:35:31,050 --> 01:35:29,590
seem to be getting smarter or why does

2175
01:35:34,770 --> 01:35:31,060
it seem like we're getting stupider and

2176
01:35:37,410 --> 01:35:34,780
actual brain capacities reduced over the

2177
01:35:39,510 --> 01:35:37,420
ages it's not just because of this

2178
01:35:41,970 --> 01:35:39,520
software it's not just because of this

2179
01:35:43,620 --> 01:35:41,980
upgrade or lack of upgrade one of the

2180
01:35:45,240 --> 01:35:43,630
guests we have an episode 5 that's

2181
01:35:47,370 --> 01:35:45,250
talking about inner alchemy is this

2182
01:35:49,110 --> 01:35:47,380
gentleman mantequilla who's is one of

2183
01:35:51,720 --> 01:35:49,120
the few Easterners that really lets

2184
01:35:54,060 --> 01:35:51,730
everybody in on the secret of amplifying

2185
01:35:55,850 --> 01:35:54,070
your intelligence and doing these

2186
01:35:58,200 --> 01:35:55,860
amazing things that'll make your body

2187
01:36:00,840 --> 01:35:58,210
almost like a second puberty for your

2188
01:36:02,640 --> 01:36:00,850
body and for your psyche that's a whole

2189
01:36:04,830 --> 01:36:02,650
other conversation but mantequilla

2190
01:36:06,689 --> 01:36:04,840
pointed out this thing that Rick

2191
01:36:08,610 --> 01:36:06,699
Strassman the DMT guy also pointed out

2192
01:36:11,600 --> 01:36:08,620
that since the invention of artificial

2193
01:36:14,670 --> 01:36:11,610
light from Edison's first light bulb

2194
01:36:16,110 --> 01:36:14,680
we've been our pineal glands been

2195
01:36:18,360 --> 01:36:16,120
shrinking basically so from the

2196
01:36:20,250 --> 01:36:18,370
invention of artificial light and this

2197
01:36:22,620 --> 01:36:20,260
may have gone all the way back to fires

2198
01:36:24,959 --> 01:36:22,630
in caves the moment that we start

2199
01:36:25,380 --> 01:36:24,969
affecting our intake of light and

2200
01:36:27,780 --> 01:36:25,390
darkness

2201
01:36:29,640 --> 01:36:27,790
you know the Masonic floorboards are all

2202
01:36:32,700 --> 01:36:29,650
checkered this equal distribution of

2203
01:36:36,150 --> 01:36:32,710
light and darkness around us it's a very

2204
01:36:37,620 --> 01:36:36,160
important metaphor all things go through

2205
01:36:39,090 --> 01:36:37,630
these cycles and our consciousness and

2206
01:36:40,919 --> 01:36:39,100
our intellect have these cycles they're

2207
01:36:42,390 --> 01:36:40,929
very much dependent on light and the

2208
01:36:43,860 --> 01:36:42,400
absence of light so and then

2209
01:36:45,600 --> 01:36:43,870
interesting fact about why we keep

2210
01:36:48,030 --> 01:36:45,610
devolving even though technology keeps

2211
01:36:49,649 --> 01:36:48,040
getting better is that we spent so much

2212
01:36:51,689 --> 01:36:49,659
time around artificial light sources

2213
01:36:53,970 --> 01:36:51,699
that our pioneer clans have been

2214
01:36:59,189 --> 01:36:53,980
shrinking for you know for all this time

2215
01:37:02,220 --> 01:36:59,199
and it is becoming sort of alarming that

2216
01:37:04,020 --> 01:37:02,230
now more than ever it's become really

2217
01:37:06,870 --> 01:37:04,030
necessary for us to turn our attention

2218
01:37:09,360 --> 01:37:06,880
to this ancient upgrade to our operating

2219
01:37:11,160 --> 01:37:09,370
system because the mechanisms in the

2220
01:37:13,020 --> 01:37:11,170
artificiality of life are literally

2221
01:37:14,370 --> 01:37:13,030
shrinking our brains and in our

2222
01:37:17,390 --> 01:37:14,380
testosterone levels by the way but

2223
01:37:22,410 --> 01:37:17,400
that's a whole other conversation the

2224
01:37:25,500 --> 01:37:22,420
ability today this has a lot to do with

2225
01:37:28,410 --> 01:37:25,510
Egypt so stay with me the ability today

2226
01:37:30,780 --> 01:37:28,420
to have access to information you don't

2227
01:37:33,030 --> 01:37:30,790
necessarily need to read they don't even

2228
01:37:37,050 --> 01:37:33,040
teach writing in school anymore that

2229
01:37:40,890 --> 01:37:37,060
blows my mind right so we need our

2230
01:37:42,959 --> 01:37:40,900
brains less and less the calculations

2231
01:37:44,550 --> 01:37:42,969
are done for us the thinking is done for

2232
01:37:47,280 --> 01:37:44,560
us the research is done for us

2233
01:37:50,160 --> 01:37:47,290
everything is given to us so we don't

2234
01:37:55,200 --> 01:37:50,170
have to logic isn't even needed anymore

2235
01:37:56,640 --> 01:37:55,210
is that what is causing this this you

2236
01:37:59,250 --> 01:37:56,650
know the backward development of our

2237
01:38:03,030 --> 01:37:59,260
brain and its size and could this be

2238
01:38:06,209 --> 01:38:03,040
what happened to Egypt it seems like it

2239
01:38:08,010 --> 01:38:06,219
very well could be some external factors

2240
01:38:09,990 --> 01:38:08,020
you know just the invention of emojis

2241
01:38:12,360 --> 01:38:10,000
didn't lure to ruin the English language

2242
01:38:15,300 --> 01:38:12,370
like as an American when I go to England

2243
01:38:16,919 --> 01:38:15,310
I'm constantly brow being for how much

2244
01:38:19,439 --> 01:38:16,929
Americans have degenerated the English

2245
01:38:21,120 --> 01:38:19,449
language and as much as I hated that and

2246
01:38:22,760 --> 01:38:21,130
as much as I you know kind of ridicule

2247
01:38:25,439 --> 01:38:22,770
that we no one's listening to me I I

2248
01:38:27,570 --> 01:38:25,449
have to find I find myself doing the

2249
01:38:30,930 --> 01:38:27,580
same thing about the generation right

2250
01:38:32,310 --> 01:38:30,940
after me that uses emojis instead of

2251
01:38:34,050 --> 01:38:32,320
writing things and as soon as we've

2252
01:38:36,660 --> 01:38:34,060
started emailing we've stopped this

2253
01:38:39,990 --> 01:38:36,670
beautiful art of writing letters from

2254
01:38:42,840 --> 01:38:40,000
the 1800s with gold rush and Lincoln's

2255
01:38:44,850 --> 01:38:42,850
Day show people had this amazing gift

2256
01:38:46,979 --> 01:38:44,860
for language and language itself is this

2257
01:38:50,189 --> 01:38:46,989
incredible operating system where before

2258
01:38:52,379 --> 01:38:50,199
any television if you were to judge just

2259
01:38:54,490 --> 01:38:52,389
from correspondences everyone was a

2260
01:38:57,430 --> 01:38:54,500
genius back then everyone had

2261
01:39:00,070 --> 01:38:57,440
this poet inside of them and your

2262
01:39:01,780 --> 01:39:00,080
intellect can only you know like a

2263
01:39:02,980 --> 01:39:01,790
little goldfish in a little bowl it's

2264
01:39:05,320 --> 01:39:02,990
only gonna get it's not gonna get very

2265
01:39:07,380 --> 01:39:05,330
big your means of expression have some

2266
01:39:11,230 --> 01:39:07,390
limiting factor on your intelligence so

2267
01:39:12,550 --> 01:39:11,240
when you're writing in fact we say this

2268
01:39:14,380 --> 01:39:12,560
in episode one the difference between a

2269
01:39:16,390 --> 01:39:14,390
hot medium and a cold medium according

2270
01:39:18,490 --> 01:39:16,400
to Marshall McLuhan is that a hot medium

2271
01:39:20,110 --> 01:39:18,500
is like reading or language telling

2272
01:39:22,120 --> 01:39:20,120
stories because your brain has to light

2273
01:39:24,400 --> 01:39:22,130
up and stay active to constantly

2274
01:39:25,690 --> 01:39:24,410
visualize and think about and detect the

2275
01:39:27,850 --> 01:39:25,700
ramifications of everything you're

2276
01:39:30,280 --> 01:39:27,860
seeing television is a cold medium

2277
01:39:31,480 --> 01:39:30,290
because it tells you everything and it

2278
01:39:33,820 --> 01:39:31,490
shuts down all your synaptic

2279
01:39:34,930 --> 01:39:33,830
associations and the insights and

2280
01:39:38,700 --> 01:39:34,940
everything that you get from

2281
01:39:42,700 --> 01:39:38,710
participating in that kind of art and so

2282
01:39:45,850 --> 01:39:42,710
when we engage in this old way of

2283
01:39:50,110 --> 01:39:45,860
learning stories it actually does cause

2284
01:39:51,610 --> 01:39:50,120
an upgrade in us that again that was

2285
01:39:52,630 --> 01:39:51,620
such a brilliant thing the upgrade to

2286
01:39:57,340 --> 01:39:52,640
our operating system

2287
01:39:59,470 --> 01:39:57,350
I watched it was one of the cool

2288
01:40:04,170 --> 01:39:59,480
documentaries that has been released

2289
01:40:06,310 --> 01:40:04,180
lately it was a Nat Geo thing or maybe

2290
01:40:09,820 --> 01:40:06,320
Smithsonian one of the two doesn't

2291
01:40:12,280 --> 01:40:09,830
matter going out and digitizing the

2292
01:40:15,610 --> 01:40:12,290
Great Pyramid had they digitized a few

2293
01:40:17,790 --> 01:40:15,620
things but they digitized all of the

2294
01:40:20,740 --> 01:40:17,800
pyramids in Egypt but when they

2295
01:40:24,040 --> 01:40:20,750
digitized the Great Pyramid there was

2296
01:40:27,760 --> 01:40:24,050
one thing that blew my mind and we have

2297
01:40:33,060 --> 01:40:27,770
to just stop and grab hold of ourselves

2298
01:40:38,460 --> 01:40:33,070
and and realize this every layer of

2299
01:40:42,820 --> 01:40:38,470
stone every layer for 400 feet is

2300
01:40:46,870 --> 01:40:42,830
completely straight and level it has not

2301
01:40:48,940 --> 01:40:46,880
altered now wrap your head around that

2302
01:40:52,800 --> 01:40:48,950
for a second so it's digitized right and

2303
01:40:56,050 --> 01:40:52,810
they've got up on the screen you know

2304
01:40:58,510 --> 01:40:56,060
doing lines across the screen on each

2305
01:41:02,050 --> 01:40:58,520
level and there and they have not moved

2306
01:41:05,970 --> 01:41:02,060
they're still they're still level to the

2307
01:41:08,200 --> 01:41:05,980
earth they haven't altered now first off

2308
01:41:10,240 --> 01:41:08,210
it has an alter

2309
01:41:12,400 --> 01:41:10,250
through earthquakes and natural

2310
01:41:14,740 --> 01:41:12,410
disasters and everything else right the

2311
01:41:17,950 --> 01:41:14,750
foundation hasn't changed that is

2312
01:41:22,300 --> 01:41:17,960
remarkable in of itself but we have to

2313
01:41:25,330 --> 01:41:22,310
go back to allegedly 26 50 BC when they

2314
01:41:27,310 --> 01:41:25,340
built this that they built it level to

2315
01:41:31,420 --> 01:41:27,320
the earth and it hasn't changed and

2316
01:41:34,630 --> 01:41:31,430
they're completely level and flat to

2317
01:41:37,120 --> 01:41:34,640
each other each block is correct block

2318
01:41:39,400 --> 01:41:37,130
after block after block after block two

2319
01:41:42,790 --> 01:41:39,410
and a half million of these and they

2320
01:41:46,920 --> 01:41:42,800
haven't changed over time that just

2321
01:41:49,720 --> 01:41:46,930
right there and its most basic fact is

2322
01:41:52,510 --> 01:41:49,730
remarkable now we're talking about a

2323
01:41:55,870 --> 01:41:52,520
technology that was given to them or

2324
01:41:58,959 --> 01:41:55,880
learned that stands to this day where it

2325
01:42:00,400 --> 01:41:58,969
hasn't its earthquake proof I can't

2326
01:42:04,000 --> 01:42:00,410
stress it any more than that it's

2327
01:42:06,040 --> 01:42:04,010
remarkable one of the things that we've

2328
01:42:07,690 --> 01:42:06,050
set out to show in the show isn't

2329
01:42:10,300 --> 01:42:07,700
exactly what you're addressing there's

2330
01:42:13,450 --> 01:42:10,310
just no way to argue with the pyramids

2331
01:42:16,570 --> 01:42:13,460
if they I have I have a suspicion that

2332
01:42:18,940 --> 01:42:16,580
if the people that are the most visible

2333
01:42:20,590 --> 01:42:18,950
people in Egyptology could find a way to

2334
01:42:22,240 --> 01:42:20,600
say the pyramids not really there and

2335
01:42:23,650 --> 01:42:22,250
they constantly are denying all the

2336
01:42:25,990 --> 01:42:23,660
important measurements in the pyramid

2337
01:42:28,150 --> 01:42:26,000
they're constantly saying there's a

2338
01:42:33,300 --> 01:42:28,160
natural explanation for why these things

2339
01:42:36,850 --> 01:42:33,310
are the way they are there is clearly

2340
01:42:38,680 --> 01:42:36,860
evidence of this intellect and a state

2341
01:42:40,990 --> 01:42:38,690
of science and a state of technology

2342
01:42:42,580 --> 01:42:41,000
that exists in the past I think one of

2343
01:42:45,190 --> 01:42:42,590
the reasons why magical Egypt was

2344
01:42:46,720 --> 01:42:45,200
successful was that it's like talking to

2345
01:42:48,459 --> 01:42:46,730
an insane person that won't admit that

2346
01:42:49,990 --> 01:42:48,469
the sun's out and you're standing there

2347
01:42:51,820 --> 01:42:50,000
and you're getting a sunburn and you're

2348
01:42:54,070 --> 01:42:51,830
talking to someone who's claiming that

2349
01:42:55,600 --> 01:42:54,080
it's nighttime and this is the reason

2350
01:42:57,729 --> 01:42:55,610
why so many people from outside of

2351
01:42:59,620 --> 01:42:57,739
Egyptology have come into Egyptology

2352
01:43:03,370 --> 01:42:59,630
because it's maddening when you can look

2353
01:43:04,650 --> 01:43:03,380
at something that clearly subverts

2354
01:43:07,930 --> 01:43:04,660
everything we know about our history

2355
01:43:09,940 --> 01:43:07,940
that clearly raises this red flag that

2356
01:43:15,150 --> 01:43:09,950
there is a part of this riddle that

2357
01:43:18,340 --> 01:43:15,160
we're not being told and maybe that's

2358
01:43:20,800 --> 01:43:18,350
it's a good thing it might well turn out

2359
01:43:21,970 --> 01:43:20,810
that the absence of an answer you know

2360
01:43:24,100 --> 01:43:21,980
when we watch lost

2361
01:43:26,740 --> 01:43:24,110
any of those really good episodic shows

2362
01:43:28,450 --> 01:43:26,750
I just discovered that or any David

2363
01:43:30,550 --> 01:43:28,460
Lynch film having the answer withheld

2364
01:43:32,710 --> 01:43:30,560
from you forces you to contemplate

2365
01:43:35,740 --> 01:43:32,720
things and look deeper and look deeper

2366
01:43:37,810 --> 01:43:35,750
into the specifics we're in a movie

2367
01:43:40,330 --> 01:43:37,820
that's a typical American film when

2368
01:43:42,040 --> 01:43:40,340
you're given all of the information you

2369
01:43:45,370 --> 01:43:42,050
don't need to think about it anymore

2370
01:43:48,190 --> 01:43:45,380
because you've received closure so very

2371
01:43:54,820 --> 01:43:48,200
much having to do with the last question

2372
01:43:57,250 --> 01:43:54,830
that you asked there is something about

2373
01:44:00,640 --> 01:43:57,260
this place that keeps forcing us to dig

2374
01:44:03,730 --> 01:44:00,650
deeper and it seems as though this thing

2375
01:44:05,440 --> 01:44:03,740
is so important that there are parts of

2376
01:44:07,840 --> 01:44:05,450
our culture that for reasons I don't

2377
01:44:10,810 --> 01:44:07,850
entirely understand really don't want us

2378
01:44:13,900 --> 01:44:10,820
to know about that and that to me is

2379
01:44:16,300 --> 01:44:13,910
part of the mystery that why do so many

2380
01:44:19,030 --> 01:44:16,310
cultures be at academic cultures or

2381
01:44:21,580 --> 01:44:19,040
political governing cultures try and

2382
01:44:23,380 --> 01:44:21,590
keep our history from us what is that

2383
01:44:26,050 --> 01:44:23,390
thing that we might find out about

2384
01:44:27,670 --> 01:44:26,060
ourselves or about the past that's so

2385
01:44:30,520 --> 01:44:27,680
forbidden that we're not allowed to know

2386
01:44:32,560 --> 01:44:30,530
about it and I think that is a huge part

2387
01:44:34,330 --> 01:44:32,570
of the allure of this and because we

2388
01:44:35,560 --> 01:44:34,340
have this institutional resistance from

2389
01:44:38,290 --> 01:44:35,570
the people that are supposed to be

2390
01:44:40,000 --> 01:44:38,300
experts they tell us well that's we have

2391
01:44:42,040 --> 01:44:40,010
to take it upon ourselves chance I'm

2392
01:44:44,710 --> 01:44:42,050
gonna jump in all of that is great and

2393
01:44:48,160 --> 01:44:44,720
you make a great point but I want your

2394
01:44:49,990 --> 01:44:48,170
opinion why do you think that is why are

2395
01:44:53,170 --> 01:44:50,000
they holding it from us what's your

2396
01:44:56,680 --> 01:44:53,180
opinion there's this idea called

2397
01:44:57,910 --> 01:44:56,690
intellectual apartheid and a good

2398
01:44:59,800 --> 01:44:57,920
example of this is back when in the

2399
01:45:02,740 --> 01:44:59,810
pirate days people were generally

2400
01:45:04,270 --> 01:45:02,750
uneducated and the people that sailed

2401
01:45:05,770 --> 01:45:04,280
from coast to coast tended to be

2402
01:45:07,330 --> 01:45:05,780
educated men they tended to be fairly

2403
01:45:09,280 --> 01:45:07,340
wealthy men but they tended to know a

2404
01:45:11,380 --> 01:45:09,290
lot more about things than people in the

2405
01:45:13,360 --> 01:45:11,390
dark ages did and what they found was

2406
01:45:15,940 --> 01:45:13,370
that they could really easily educate

2407
01:45:17,410 --> 01:45:15,950
anybody that they visited and all these

2408
01:45:19,600 --> 01:45:17,420
people that they conscripted you know

2409
01:45:21,190 --> 01:45:19,610
basically stole a body and forced you to

2410
01:45:22,660 --> 01:45:21,200
go to work on the boat what they found

2411
01:45:24,820 --> 01:45:22,670
was if you didn't educate people and

2412
01:45:26,200 --> 01:45:24,830
kept them ignorant a lot of people

2413
01:45:28,780 --> 01:45:26,210
believed that the earth was flat and

2414
01:45:31,000 --> 01:45:28,790
that when you get out to open sea with a

2415
01:45:32,320 --> 01:45:31,010
bunch of men who are literally dependent

2416
01:45:34,090 --> 01:45:32,330
on you because they think the earth is

2417
01:45:34,479 --> 01:45:34,100
flat and they have no idea where they

2418
01:45:36,130 --> 01:45:34,489
are

2419
01:45:38,020 --> 01:45:36,140
or you know what's gonna happen to them

2420
01:45:39,160 --> 01:45:38,030
if they jump ship or mutiny they're not

2421
01:45:42,910 --> 01:45:39,170
gonna jump ship and they're not gonna

2422
01:45:46,479 --> 01:45:42,920
mutiny and so as this idea of governance

2423
01:45:48,850 --> 01:45:46,489
and of a few people protecting but also

2424
01:45:51,580 --> 01:45:48,860
controlling and you know seizing the

2425
01:45:54,160 --> 01:45:51,590
resources and the work produce of the

2426
01:45:55,930 --> 01:45:54,170
population that they rule sometimes it's

2427
01:45:57,280 --> 01:45:55,940
just better for people in rulership

2428
01:45:59,110 --> 01:45:57,290
position if you've ever had

2429
01:46:00,970 --> 01:45:59,120
Machiavelli's The Prince it's not a

2430
01:46:02,890 --> 01:46:00,980
secret idea that people in charge

2431
01:46:04,479 --> 01:46:02,900
generally understand that people are

2432
01:46:06,400 --> 01:46:04,489
easier to govern when they don't when

2433
01:46:08,890 --> 01:46:06,410
they aren't educated so in the most

2434
01:46:11,080 --> 01:46:08,900
general sense I think that has quite a

2435
01:46:12,820 --> 01:46:11,090
bit to do with this religion you know if

2436
01:46:14,650 --> 01:46:12,830
you've ever been to the Vatican there is

2437
01:46:16,570 --> 01:46:14,660
an accumulation of wealth in the Vatican

2438
01:46:18,940 --> 01:46:16,580
that completely aside from everything

2439
01:46:20,800 --> 01:46:18,950
else there's a massive financial vested

2440
01:46:22,959 --> 01:46:20,810
interest in that organization

2441
01:46:26,110 --> 01:46:22,969
maintaining its hold on the thinking of

2442
01:46:27,880 --> 01:46:26,120
the world so for commercial reasons for

2443
01:46:31,209 --> 01:46:27,890
theological conquest and domination

2444
01:46:34,060 --> 01:46:31,219
reasons there's a lot of overt things

2445
01:46:35,590 --> 01:46:34,070
that would contribute to why we're not

2446
01:46:37,810 --> 01:46:35,600
allowed to know there's some things that

2447
01:46:41,050 --> 01:46:37,820
I'm really really interested in about

2448
01:46:42,610 --> 01:46:41,060
why is this so taboo and if you could I

2449
01:46:44,820 --> 01:46:42,620
can actually read some of the writings

2450
01:46:46,990 --> 01:46:44,830
from ancient Egypt or in the Gnostics

2451
01:46:51,610 --> 01:46:47,000
heroine Tilton in the news show is the

2452
01:46:53,740 --> 01:46:51,620
professor of gnostic symbolism they they

2453
01:46:56,530 --> 01:46:53,750
talk about some of this information not

2454
01:46:59,080 --> 01:46:56,540
coming from people so either whether

2455
01:47:01,840 --> 01:46:59,090
it's aliens or in the in the Persian

2456
01:47:03,850 --> 01:47:01,850
world they have this whole think about

2457
01:47:06,630 --> 01:47:03,860
Jen which er we knows genies like not

2458
01:47:09,930 --> 01:47:06,640
the cute I love Gena I Dream of Jeannie

2459
01:47:11,920 --> 01:47:09,940
Barbara Eden genie but these malevolent

2460
01:47:14,500 --> 01:47:11,930
non-physical entities that you could

2461
01:47:16,300 --> 01:47:14,510
call angels so you can call Jen or some

2462
01:47:18,370 --> 01:47:16,310
people have kind of equated aliens with

2463
01:47:21,550 --> 01:47:18,380
these things but there was a malevolent

2464
01:47:23,229 --> 01:47:21,560
presence that was incredibly intelligent

2465
01:47:25,540 --> 01:47:23,239
and dissonant didn't necessarily have

2466
01:47:28,120 --> 01:47:25,550
our best interest in mind even in the

2467
01:47:30,310 --> 01:47:28,130
Bible the story of Satan wanted to give

2468
01:47:33,010 --> 01:47:30,320
Eve information that would wake her up

2469
01:47:36,190 --> 01:47:33,020
and make her equal to the gods that

2470
01:47:38,830 --> 01:47:36,200
thing is so ingrained in our culture and

2471
01:47:40,540 --> 01:47:38,840
by the way it was a snake that gave this

2472
01:47:42,459 --> 01:47:40,550
information to Eve which when you start

2473
01:47:44,050 --> 01:47:42,469
watching the magical Egypt series we

2474
01:47:45,850 --> 01:47:44,060
start exploring these Kundalini themes

2475
01:47:47,200 --> 01:47:45,860
and these tantric themes that involve

2476
01:47:47,609 --> 01:47:47,210
the importance of the spine and the

2477
01:47:49,830 --> 01:47:47,619
pioneer

2478
01:47:51,239 --> 01:47:49,840
gland and then you go back and look at

2479
01:47:53,969 --> 01:47:51,249
you always find things that are

2480
01:47:55,409 --> 01:47:53,979
associated you don't just find the facts

2481
01:47:57,029 --> 01:47:55,419
but you find how to deal with them very

2482
01:47:58,439 --> 01:47:57,039
much like television by the way another

2483
01:48:00,419 --> 01:47:58,449
reason why we're getting stupider and

2484
01:48:01,709 --> 01:48:00,429
why TV is a cold medium is have you ever

2485
01:48:03,209 --> 01:48:01,719
noticed when you watch the news they

2486
01:48:05,009 --> 01:48:03,219
never just give you the facts they tell

2487
01:48:06,629 --> 01:48:05,019
you how to feel about those facts and so

2488
01:48:07,830 --> 01:48:06,639
if you're watching CNN they tell you to

2489
01:48:09,029 --> 01:48:07,840
feel one way and if you're watching Fox

2490
01:48:10,919 --> 01:48:09,039
they tell you to feel another way but

2491
01:48:12,959 --> 01:48:10,929
it's incredibly insulting and people

2492
01:48:14,040 --> 01:48:12,969
should be incredibly insulted that they

2493
01:48:15,270 --> 01:48:14,050
don't just give you the news they give

2494
01:48:17,250 --> 01:48:15,280
you the news and they have an opinion

2495
01:48:19,500 --> 01:48:17,260
built into it and so all of those things

2496
01:48:22,469 --> 01:48:19,510
are diminishing our capacity to

2497
01:48:25,589 --> 01:48:22,479
understand and so in this primary core a

2498
01:48:28,290 --> 01:48:25,599
cultural myth that we have about the

2499
01:48:30,359 --> 01:48:28,300
snake tempting Eve with information the

2500
01:48:32,459 --> 01:48:30,369
tree of knowledge of good and evil there

2501
01:48:34,350 --> 01:48:32,469
is something from the very beginnings of

2502
01:48:37,739 --> 01:48:34,360
humanity according to the Western mythos

2503
01:48:42,209 --> 01:48:37,749
that equates this forbidden knowledge

2504
01:48:43,830 --> 01:48:42,219
with a forbidden source and so I often

2505
01:48:45,839 --> 01:48:43,840
find myself pushing up against this

2506
01:48:47,790 --> 01:48:45,849
invisible membrane that says you can

2507
01:48:50,819 --> 01:48:47,800
walk up to this point but no farther and

2508
01:48:53,279 --> 01:48:50,829
I wondered like everyone else why this

2509
01:48:57,959 --> 01:48:53,289
taboo and so when you start looking at

2510
01:49:01,229 --> 01:48:57,969
these ancient cultures there's a huge

2511
01:49:02,879 --> 01:49:01,239
sentiment to the idea that there are

2512
01:49:03,750 --> 01:49:02,889
these things you contact them and you

2513
01:49:06,419 --> 01:49:03,760
talk to them when you're on

2514
01:49:08,850 --> 01:49:06,429
hallucinogenic drugs you it's what young

2515
01:49:10,529 --> 01:49:08,860
and Swedenborg contacted in the

2516
01:49:12,000 --> 01:49:10,539
hypnagogic State there are these things

2517
01:49:14,159 --> 01:49:12,010
that'll talk to you if you explore

2518
01:49:15,959 --> 01:49:14,169
consciousness deep enough so in this

2519
01:49:18,600 --> 01:49:15,969
science that instead of looking outward

2520
01:49:20,069 --> 01:49:18,610
looks inward there are things like the

2521
01:49:21,959 --> 01:49:20,079
moon and Jupiter and all of these

2522
01:49:24,989 --> 01:49:21,969
uncharted territories in the psyche that

2523
01:49:27,600 --> 01:49:24,999
aren't necessarily you but they infringe

2524
01:49:30,000 --> 01:49:27,610
on the periphery of your psyche like an

2525
01:49:31,799 --> 01:49:30,010
HP Lovecraft story or something and that

2526
01:49:33,179 --> 01:49:31,809
to me is extremely interesting because

2527
01:49:35,279 --> 01:49:33,189
that brings us to the whole subject of

2528
01:49:37,080 --> 01:49:35,289
the occult and why through all of

2529
01:49:39,719 --> 01:49:37,090
history the occult seems to be this

2530
01:49:41,159 --> 01:49:39,729
thing that was born out of Egypt and the

2531
01:49:43,259 --> 01:49:41,169
occult is you know is just it's one of

2532
01:49:45,000 --> 01:49:43,269
the most taboo things there is but it's

2533
01:49:47,250 --> 01:49:45,010
also one of the most interesting things

2534
01:49:48,569 --> 01:49:47,260
there is and so Jimmy Page you know and

2535
01:49:51,089 --> 01:49:48,579
Black Sabbath and all these people in

2536
01:49:53,009 --> 01:49:51,099
the 70s that were the mechanism of

2537
01:49:55,290 --> 01:49:53,019
transmission of the occult mysteries in

2538
01:49:56,520 --> 01:49:55,300
those days it's really why rock and roll

2539
01:49:58,709 --> 01:49:56,530
became such an important part of our

2540
01:50:00,420 --> 01:49:58,719
lives and then why rock and roll is

2541
01:50:02,580 --> 01:50:00,430
ultimately killed later when Mt

2542
01:50:04,020 --> 01:50:02,590
you know killed it in favor of the new

2543
01:50:05,880 --> 01:50:04,030
kind of music that everyone listens to

2544
01:50:07,650 --> 01:50:05,890
that there's this just don't forgive me

2545
01:50:09,570 --> 01:50:07,660
for ranting but all these subjects are

2546
01:50:10,860 --> 01:50:09,580
very close in my mind that there's this

2547
01:50:12,780 --> 01:50:10,870
message that keeps trying to come out

2548
01:50:15,540 --> 01:50:12,790
and there's a force that tries to

2549
01:50:17,280 --> 01:50:15,550
prevent this message from coming out and

2550
01:50:19,140 --> 01:50:17,290
I'm not sure who the good guy is the bad

2551
01:50:20,730 --> 01:50:19,150
guy is in the story maybe there's really

2552
01:50:23,580 --> 01:50:20,740
good reasons for us not to know about

2553
01:50:25,170 --> 01:50:23,590
this stuff but I can to fall on the side

2554
01:50:26,340 --> 01:50:25,180
of you know lots of people get in car

2555
01:50:27,720 --> 01:50:26,350
wrecks but it doesn't mean that nobody

2556
01:50:31,560 --> 01:50:27,730
should be able to drive that there's

2557
01:50:33,390 --> 01:50:31,570
lots of dangerous information but the

2558
01:50:34,950 --> 01:50:33,400
demands of science the demands of human

2559
01:50:39,210 --> 01:50:34,960
evolution the demands of the intellect

2560
01:50:40,740 --> 01:50:39,220
is that there are no sacred spaces and

2561
01:50:42,810 --> 01:50:40,750
that it's the obligation of every

2562
01:50:43,830 --> 01:50:42,820
intelligent person no matter where the

2563
01:50:45,960 --> 01:50:43,840
information came from to at least

2564
01:50:48,390 --> 01:50:45,970
explore it and subject it to the light

2565
01:50:48,900 --> 01:50:48,400
of you know rational inquiry like Rene

2566
01:50:50,010 --> 01:50:48,910
Descartes

2567
01:50:53,340 --> 01:50:50,020
you know the basic rules of science

2568
01:50:56,490 --> 01:50:53,350
there's nothing that is off-limits to

2569
01:50:58,950 --> 01:50:56,500
science well and and we today I think

2570
01:51:00,870 --> 01:50:58,960
collectively are starting to realize

2571
01:51:03,090 --> 01:51:00,880
that the you know it's starting to

2572
01:51:05,540 --> 01:51:03,100
absolutely question everything and not

2573
01:51:09,600 --> 01:51:05,550
believe everything that we're fed but

2574
01:51:11,310 --> 01:51:09,610
when you hear over and over again things

2575
01:51:14,820 --> 01:51:11,320
like you know addressing the Great

2576
01:51:17,400 --> 01:51:14,830
Pyramid well you know it it was by

2577
01:51:20,370 --> 01:51:17,410
chance that it's you know to true north

2578
01:51:22,560 --> 01:51:20,380
it's by chance that it's level it's my

2579
01:51:24,510 --> 01:51:22,570
chance you know well they have two and a

2580
01:51:26,280 --> 01:51:24,520
half million stones in 20 years well

2581
01:51:28,410 --> 01:51:26,290
they just did it you know and they be

2582
01:51:31,110 --> 01:51:28,420
they just it just happened you're not

2583
01:51:33,630 --> 01:51:31,120
giving it you know it's you hear this

2584
01:51:36,050 --> 01:51:33,640
over and over again for every the

2585
01:51:39,240 --> 01:51:36,060
mathematics the you know these

2586
01:51:43,770 --> 01:51:39,250
coincidences that is that distance to

2587
01:51:46,980 --> 01:51:43,780
the moon grass that the our equator the

2588
01:51:48,960 --> 01:51:46,990
the all of it man all of it and you hear

2589
01:51:52,080 --> 01:51:48,970
it over and over again well it's too

2590
01:51:54,930 --> 01:51:52,090
there are too many coincidences and too

2591
01:51:56,910 --> 01:51:54,940
many chances here there was something

2592
01:52:00,180 --> 01:51:56,920
else going on and now we want those

2593
01:52:03,710 --> 01:52:00,190
answers a big part of episode one of the

2594
01:52:06,570 --> 01:52:03,720
new series talk about John West and

2595
01:52:08,700 --> 01:52:06,580
Robert Schoch and Robert Bauval and

2596
01:52:10,980 --> 01:52:08,710
Robert Lawler and this kind of first

2597
01:52:12,930 --> 01:52:10,990
generation of people as a counterculture

2598
01:52:14,260 --> 01:52:12,940
a new counterculture or maybe an

2599
01:52:15,670 --> 01:52:14,270
extension of the counterculture the

2600
01:52:19,180 --> 01:52:15,680
sixties because it all kinda revolved

2601
01:52:22,000 --> 01:52:19,190
around the same things but when you're a

2602
01:52:23,980 --> 01:52:22,010
child and that child is nine or ten it's

2603
01:52:25,990 --> 01:52:23,990
not appropriate for that child to look

2604
01:52:28,390 --> 01:52:26,000
at pornography but there comes a certain

2605
01:52:30,490 --> 01:52:28,400
time when all of a sudden you'll find

2606
01:52:32,740 --> 01:52:30,500
the parent all regulations start easing

2607
01:52:34,900 --> 01:52:32,750
up and you know unless you're some kind

2608
01:52:37,780 --> 01:52:34,910
of psycho nobody takes their child to of

2609
01:52:40,450 --> 01:52:37,790
our house when they turn 14 anymore I

2610
01:52:42,130 --> 01:52:40,460
mean it exists in urban legend but what

2611
01:52:44,770 --> 01:52:42,140
you find is just that people start

2612
01:52:47,380 --> 01:52:44,780
backing away from the restrictions on

2613
01:52:49,720 --> 01:52:47,390
knowledge and it's necessary when you go

2614
01:52:51,550 --> 01:52:49,730
from prepubescence to post-pubescent so

2615
01:52:53,290 --> 01:52:51,560
that all of a sudden your attention is

2616
01:52:55,390 --> 01:52:53,300
going to be directed to the next phase

2617
01:52:59,680 --> 01:52:55,400
of your growth which involves sexuality

2618
01:53:01,300 --> 01:52:59,690
and stuff so I'm seeing that old taboos

2619
01:53:04,510 --> 01:53:01,310
starting to give way and it's why people

2620
01:53:06,730 --> 01:53:04,520
like yourself people with intelligent

2621
01:53:08,500 --> 01:53:06,740
curious keen minds and a good sense of

2622
01:53:11,010 --> 01:53:08,510
observation and a knowledge of a

2623
01:53:14,140 --> 01:53:11,020
diversity of different cultural fields

2624
01:53:15,430 --> 01:53:14,150
will inevitably find this stuff and say

2625
01:53:17,380 --> 01:53:15,440
you know in a certain sense this is the

2626
01:53:19,000 --> 01:53:17,390
only thing that matters you know just

2627
01:53:21,640 --> 01:53:19,010
like your first porno magazine or just

2628
01:53:23,230 --> 01:53:21,650
your first exposure to a sexual

2629
01:53:24,880 --> 01:53:23,240
situation outside of adult supervision

2630
01:53:27,280 --> 01:53:24,890
is the most fascinating thing in the

2631
01:53:29,110 --> 01:53:27,290
world that this is everywhere where we

2632
01:53:32,380 --> 01:53:29,120
want to be and this is the nature of our

2633
01:53:34,810 --> 01:53:32,390
new phase of growth and so whatever the

2634
01:53:37,090 --> 01:53:34,820
reason why we weren't supposed to do

2635
01:53:38,800 --> 01:53:37,100
this it's very much like Cinderella and

2636
01:53:41,650 --> 01:53:38,810
her wicked stepsisters and an evil

2637
01:53:43,120 --> 01:53:41,660
stepmother that those artificial forces

2638
01:53:44,650 --> 01:53:43,130
that have been keeping us from our

2639
01:53:46,540 --> 01:53:44,660
destiny you know and finding out about

2640
01:53:49,660 --> 01:53:46,550
this information which is really finding

2641
01:53:51,580 --> 01:53:49,670
out about ourselves I think most people

2642
01:53:53,020 --> 01:53:51,590
will find when we did coast to coast a

2643
01:53:54,880 --> 01:53:53,030
while back a couple people called and

2644
01:53:56,710 --> 01:53:54,890
said don't aren't you scared giving away

2645
01:53:58,480 --> 01:53:56,720
secrets like this I don't think that

2646
01:54:01,060 --> 01:53:58,490
these things are secret anymore I think

2647
01:54:03,820 --> 01:54:01,070
just like that metaphor of fleas in the

2648
01:54:05,500 --> 01:54:03,830
jar you know if you keep a lid on a jar

2649
01:54:07,150 --> 01:54:05,510
of fleas for long enough didn't you take

2650
01:54:08,710 --> 01:54:07,160
the jar off nobody will ever jump past

2651
01:54:11,110 --> 01:54:08,720
where the lid was because we've all

2652
01:54:12,520 --> 01:54:11,120
learned not to go there and sooner or

2653
01:54:15,100 --> 01:54:12,530
later when you take the jar off of fleas

2654
01:54:16,750 --> 01:54:15,110
one or two impetuous treblemaker fleas

2655
01:54:18,550 --> 01:54:16,760
are going to notice hey there's no lid

2656
01:54:20,230 --> 01:54:18,560
on the jar any more and they'll tell

2657
01:54:22,330 --> 01:54:20,240
everybody else and then very quickly the

2658
01:54:23,830 --> 01:54:22,340
jar is empty and I'm kind of seeing your

2659
01:54:24,479 --> 01:54:23,840
role in the world and my role in the

2660
01:54:26,459 --> 01:54:24,489
world is

2661
01:54:28,560 --> 01:54:26,469
alerting people the fact that guess what

2662
01:54:31,169 --> 01:54:28,570
you're past puberty now it's time for us

2663
01:54:34,830 --> 01:54:31,179
to collectively look at this information

2664
01:54:36,360 --> 01:54:34,840
that's been so forbidden and recognize

2665
01:54:39,570 --> 01:54:36,370
it for how important it is that it's

2666
01:54:41,760 --> 01:54:39,580
really our next stage of development do

2667
01:54:43,800 --> 01:54:41,770
you think we've got about three minutes

2668
01:54:47,040 --> 01:54:43,810
before the break do you think that there

2669
01:54:51,959 --> 01:54:47,050
is a chance of something accidental

2670
01:54:54,570 --> 01:54:51,969
outside of Egyptology of the control of

2671
01:54:57,750 --> 01:54:54,580
Egypt and Cairo and and so forth that

2672
01:54:59,610 --> 01:54:57,760
would blow all of this wide open you

2673
01:55:03,330 --> 01:54:59,620
know a tourist walking through the

2674
01:55:06,300 --> 01:55:03,340
desert falls into a hole and boom there

2675
01:55:08,399 --> 01:55:06,310
is the Library of Alexandria is hidden

2676
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wealth you know it's something like that

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01:55:11,669 --> 01:55:10,570
I would sure hope that that happens and

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01:55:13,439 --> 01:55:11,679
those things do happen that's how they

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01:55:15,090 --> 01:55:13,449
found the NAG Hammadi library and all of

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the original Bibles that cause so much

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trouble

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01:55:20,580 --> 01:55:18,159
it was literally some sheep herder in a

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cave that found this stuff there's

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01:55:23,970 --> 01:55:22,030
always that possibility I'm hoping

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01:55:25,830 --> 01:55:23,980
magical Egypt is one of those forces

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01:55:28,110 --> 01:55:25,840
because nobody's ever looked at the art

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01:55:30,360 --> 01:55:28,120
in this way that makes it so clear what

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01:55:32,070 --> 01:55:30,370
this message is and there's just no way

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01:55:33,600 --> 01:55:32,080
to refute you know you can't refute a

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01:55:35,100 --> 01:55:33,610
mathematical formula and when you look

2691
01:55:37,260 --> 01:55:35,110
at the new magical Egypt and look at

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01:55:39,750 --> 01:55:37,270
these specific ways that this message

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01:55:41,310 --> 01:55:39,760
was encrypted into the art it removes

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01:55:43,110 --> 01:55:41,320
the ability to argue with it

2695
01:55:44,760 --> 01:55:43,120
and then the question remains now what

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01:55:46,530 --> 01:55:44,770
do we do with this information let's

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01:55:48,540 --> 01:55:46,540
take a break right here we'll pick all

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01:55:50,160 --> 01:55:48,550
of this up when we come back our guest

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01:55:53,540 --> 01:55:50,170
tonight chance Gardner director of

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magical Egypt and magical Egypt -

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episode 5 is not well it's gonna be out

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a zone where we have never gone before

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all right

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what was your and keep these answers

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02:01:17,310 --> 02:01:14,650
short okay the first time you went up to

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02:01:19,350 --> 02:01:17,320
a slab of red granite and slapped it

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02:01:23,640 --> 02:01:19,360
with your hand what went through your

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02:01:28,439 --> 02:01:23,650
mind for me it was the face it wasn't

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02:01:31,350 --> 02:01:28,449
just walls or sculpture I'm a columns

2807
02:01:34,410 --> 02:01:31,360
but there was a group of statues I

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02:01:36,000 --> 02:01:34,420
walked in and immediately I was

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02:01:37,229 --> 02:01:36,010
uncomfortable because there was this

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02:01:38,370 --> 02:01:37,239
presence in the room and I wasn't really

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02:01:40,439 --> 02:01:38,380
thinking about it and I might've been a

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02:01:42,120 --> 02:01:40,449
little hung over a little rough in the

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02:01:43,740 --> 02:01:42,130
morning it was in Abu Simbel and I

2814
02:01:45,720 --> 02:01:43,750
walked in and I'm just aware of these

2815
02:01:47,490 --> 02:01:45,730
four people glaring at me and they were

2816
02:01:49,020 --> 02:01:47,500
kind of yelling in that way but they

2817
02:01:50,130 --> 02:01:49,030
weren't saying anything and I'm there

2818
02:01:51,390 --> 02:01:50,140
for a minute I didn't want to look at

2819
02:01:52,800 --> 02:01:51,400
them I'm messing with my camera and I

2820
02:01:55,860 --> 02:01:52,810
look up and I realized that these are

2821
02:01:57,750 --> 02:01:55,870
statues and they had a presence about

2822
02:01:59,880 --> 02:01:57,760
them and they had this intelligence and

2823
02:02:01,800 --> 02:01:59,890
then later I found out that there was

2824
02:02:04,680 --> 02:02:01,810
quite a lot of writing in ancient Egypt

2825
02:02:06,780 --> 02:02:04,690
about how you actually trapped souls or

2826
02:02:08,669 --> 02:02:06,790
entombed souls in statues that those

2827
02:02:10,290 --> 02:02:08,679
statues weren't just rock but they had

2828
02:02:13,350 --> 02:02:10,300
these incredible magical process he's

2829
02:02:15,479 --> 02:02:13,360
done to them to in essence trap a soul

2830
02:02:17,750 --> 02:02:15,489
in this statue and the same with temples

2831
02:02:20,040 --> 02:02:17,760
and so when you're there in person

2832
02:02:21,720 --> 02:02:20,050
there's something that no photograph can

2833
02:02:24,120 --> 02:02:21,730
convey that these things have a presence

2834
02:02:27,709 --> 02:02:24,130
and a personality and not necessarily a

2835
02:02:33,740 --> 02:02:27,719
happy friendly personality it's okay and

2836
02:02:36,510 --> 02:02:33,750
what about the density it's so dense you

2837
02:02:39,930 --> 02:02:36,520
know what I mean it is just like it's so

2838
02:02:42,830 --> 02:02:39,940
final you go up I went up to you know

2839
02:02:45,080 --> 02:02:42,840
this red granite sarcophagus

2840
02:02:47,420 --> 02:02:45,090
and massive right and I would just went

2841
02:02:49,460 --> 02:02:47,430
up and it's you know it's two feet thick

2842
02:02:52,940 --> 02:02:49,470
the walls of it and you go up and you

2843
02:02:55,880 --> 02:02:52,950
slap you feel it's cold and you feel it

2844
02:02:58,610 --> 02:02:55,890
and and you knock on it and you realize

2845
02:03:01,760 --> 02:02:58,620
that this is like the densest thing on

2846
02:03:03,650 --> 02:03:01,770
the planet like it you know what else

2847
02:03:05,090 --> 02:03:03,660
they're polarized in this way that

2848
02:03:07,400 --> 02:03:05,100
nobody understands so there's some

2849
02:03:09,140 --> 02:03:07,410
obelisks have fallen over and if you hit

2850
02:03:11,450 --> 02:03:09,150
them they literally ring like about they

2851
02:03:13,130 --> 02:03:11,460
ring like a mouse yeah yeah they ring

2852
02:03:17,390 --> 02:03:13,140
like a bell I've heard the recordings

2853
02:03:20,270 --> 02:03:17,400
I've watched people do it and it's like

2854
02:03:21,470 --> 02:03:20,280
wait a minute here now an ordinary stone

2855
02:03:23,900 --> 02:03:21,480
doesn't do that by the way there's a

2856
02:03:25,820 --> 02:03:23,910
specific pattern there's some how nobody

2857
02:03:27,500 --> 02:03:25,830
knows how they did it but there is an

2858
02:03:31,040 --> 02:03:27,510
alignment a polarization of the actual

2859
02:03:33,380 --> 02:03:31,050
molecules of the stone and so it's alive

2860
02:03:36,140 --> 02:03:33,390
it's it's a musical instrument his

2861
02:03:38,420 --> 02:03:36,150
vibration now so now let's go to

2862
02:03:42,170 --> 02:03:38,430
question number two with that with what

2863
02:03:44,870 --> 02:03:42,180
you know now about granite and its

2864
02:03:49,100 --> 02:03:44,880
properties and and how hard it is

2865
02:03:51,560 --> 02:03:49,110
because it is it's hard when you look at

2866
02:03:54,880 --> 02:03:51,570
these beautiful inscriptions that are

2867
02:03:58,340 --> 02:03:54,890
carved into it and some of them are

2868
02:04:02,050 --> 02:03:58,350
literally you know 4,500 years old and

2869
02:04:06,320 --> 02:04:02,060
older how did they get it done because

2870
02:04:10,040 --> 02:04:06,330
copper tools don't apply chicken bones

2871
02:04:13,310 --> 02:04:10,050
certainly don't work how did how did

2872
02:04:15,470 --> 02:04:13,320
they how do they carve it chicken bones

2873
02:04:20,240 --> 02:04:15,480
have a limited functionality as as tools

2874
02:04:21,860 --> 02:04:20,250
yeah officer there are evidences all

2875
02:04:24,170 --> 02:04:21,870
over the place that they could produce a

2876
02:04:25,640 --> 02:04:24,180
type of heat that we don't understand in

2877
02:04:27,800 --> 02:04:25,650
the statues in Cairo Museum

2878
02:04:29,930 --> 02:04:27,810
there's obsidian and these stones that

2879
02:04:31,520 --> 02:04:29,940
are impossible to cut under any

2880
02:04:33,620 --> 02:04:31,530
circumstances because they're so fine

2881
02:04:35,930 --> 02:04:33,630
and they flake but it appears as though

2882
02:04:38,480 --> 02:04:35,940
there was the technology to literally

2883
02:04:43,090 --> 02:04:38,490
melt the stone and pour it into molds to

2884
02:04:48,740 --> 02:04:44,990
what's the question ask me the question

2885
02:04:50,330 --> 02:04:48,750
again how did they carve into I all

2886
02:04:53,169 --> 02:04:50,340
right so electrum there's this thing

2887
02:04:55,750 --> 02:04:53,179
called electrum that say amalgam of

2888
02:04:57,160 --> 02:04:55,760
silver and gold I think some but it has

2889
02:05:00,009 --> 02:04:57,170
this very particular electrical

2890
02:05:01,899 --> 02:05:00,019
conductive property it requires so much

2891
02:05:03,819 --> 02:05:01,909
heat we can only we've only been able to

2892
02:05:06,009 --> 02:05:03,829
make electrum you know fairly recently

2893
02:05:07,929 --> 02:05:06,019
in history but there's evidence that the

2894
02:05:09,429 --> 02:05:07,939
top of the obelisks were done in

2895
02:05:11,709 --> 02:05:09,439
electrum and so you know we see those

2896
02:05:12,759 --> 02:05:11,719
pictures of the lightbulb which has you

2897
02:05:14,890 --> 02:05:12,769
know it's kind of controversial thing

2898
02:05:16,359 --> 02:05:14,900
but there appears to be sources of

2899
02:05:18,250 --> 02:05:16,369
energy that they had back then they were

2900
02:05:20,259 --> 02:05:18,260
able to produce incredible amounts of

2901
02:05:21,549 --> 02:05:20,269
heat that we don't really understand the

2902
02:05:23,469 --> 02:05:21,559
closest we've come as the Baghdad

2903
02:05:26,949 --> 02:05:23,479
battery but that produces a very mild

2904
02:05:28,719 --> 02:05:26,959
electrical thing but there was a part of

2905
02:05:30,399 --> 02:05:28,729
magical Egypt as this exploration of an

2906
02:05:36,549 --> 02:05:30,409
unacknowledged science that we just

2907
02:05:41,199 --> 02:05:36,559
cannot explain when I went up again I've

2908
02:05:43,779 --> 02:05:41,209
seen a few sarcophagi and I and I go up

2909
02:05:45,969 --> 02:05:43,789
and it's one thing to look at the size

2910
02:05:48,219 --> 02:05:45,979
of it it's massive its square it's

2911
02:05:53,379 --> 02:05:48,229
perfect and you know and then you look

2912
02:05:55,359 --> 02:05:53,389
inside and you see the you know the the

2913
02:05:58,629 --> 02:05:55,369
hieroglyphics and they're perfect

2914
02:06:01,660 --> 02:05:58,639
they're perfect and you have to step

2915
02:06:06,489 --> 02:06:01,670
back and ask yourself now how did they

2916
02:06:08,770 --> 02:06:06,499
do that how did they do that I I don't I

2917
02:06:12,370 --> 02:06:08,780
don't want to hear simple stuff well

2918
02:06:14,979 --> 02:06:12,380
they just got it done that that doesn't

2919
02:06:18,160 --> 02:06:14,989
work for me and my eyes are what I

2920
02:06:20,890 --> 02:06:18,170
believe my eyes are what I trust and I'm

2921
02:06:23,679 --> 02:06:20,900
blown away by that red granite all

2922
02:06:25,600 --> 02:06:23,689
granite is not a joke this is not

2923
02:06:29,109 --> 02:06:25,610
something that just needs to be

2924
02:06:31,750 --> 02:06:29,119
dismissed and so we have that aspect now

2925
02:06:35,229 --> 02:06:31,760
let's back up a step you still have to

2926
02:06:36,520 --> 02:06:35,239
quarry this you have to cut it out of

2927
02:06:39,279 --> 02:06:36,530
the quarry and you have to make it

2928
02:06:43,179 --> 02:06:39,289
square and you have to move it and the

2929
02:06:45,669 --> 02:06:43,189
weight of things today today the most

2930
02:06:50,439 --> 02:06:45,679
modern crane out there the most biggest

2931
02:06:51,850 --> 02:06:50,449
crane ten tons you know fifteen tons and

2932
02:06:56,379 --> 02:06:51,860
they can get it about a hundred meters

2933
02:06:59,799 --> 02:06:56,389
in the air and about 50 meters out right

2934
02:07:02,140 --> 02:06:59,809
150 feet up and and another you know

2935
02:07:03,520 --> 02:07:02,150
what I mean it and and so we look at it

2936
02:07:06,189 --> 02:07:03,530
in those aspects

2937
02:07:08,910 --> 02:07:06,199
how were they coring this

2938
02:07:12,340 --> 02:07:08,920
before they ever got a chance to carve

2939
02:07:14,800 --> 02:07:12,350
hieroglyphics into it I can't get my

2940
02:07:16,570 --> 02:07:14,810
head around it it works on so many

2941
02:07:18,669 --> 02:07:16,580
levels but just the thing about Egypt a

2942
02:07:21,430 --> 02:07:18,679
lot of that is amazing all by itself is

2943
02:07:23,590 --> 02:07:21,440
the brute force of the accomplishment

2944
02:07:25,150 --> 02:07:23,600
that the size of the stones before

2945
02:07:26,770 --> 02:07:25,160
they're quarried before they're carved

2946
02:07:29,050 --> 02:07:26,780
down into statues before anything else

2947
02:07:30,520 --> 02:07:29,060
happens the size of the stones if there

2948
02:07:32,410 --> 02:07:30,530
were nothing else but that that would

2949
02:07:35,979 --> 02:07:32,420
still be the most amazing thing in the

2950
02:07:37,510 --> 02:07:35,989
mine and like you know in Sumeria and

2951
02:07:39,459 --> 02:07:37,520
Babylon there are stones that are even

2952
02:07:43,030 --> 02:07:39,469
bigger than in Egypt and seem to go back

2953
02:07:45,220 --> 02:07:43,040
farther so that is a huge one just

2954
02:07:48,340 --> 02:07:45,230
everything else aside how did they move

2955
02:07:50,260 --> 02:07:48,350
those stones around clearly we're

2956
02:07:52,060 --> 02:07:50,270
dealing with something that is a

2957
02:07:55,570 --> 02:07:52,070
technology that we have yet to get back

2958
02:07:59,229 --> 02:07:55,580
to ourselves well what's your uh okay

2959
02:08:01,030 --> 02:07:59,239
before you answer me so simply how do

2960
02:08:03,370 --> 02:08:01,040
you think that they pulled it off you

2961
02:08:05,890 --> 02:08:03,380
know and you have to go when you go to

2962
02:08:08,680 --> 02:08:05,900
aswan and you look at the unfinished

2963
02:08:12,010 --> 02:08:08,690
obelisk there right a hundred and fifty

2964
02:08:13,810 --> 02:08:12,020
feet a hundred and fifty feet perfect

2965
02:08:16,030 --> 02:08:13,820
man it's just prayers ready to go it

2966
02:08:16,570 --> 02:08:16,040
cracked and they didn't finish it but

2967
02:08:19,060 --> 02:08:16,580
there it is

2968
02:08:25,930 --> 02:08:19,070
sitting there in the quarry now let's

2969
02:08:29,020 --> 02:08:25,940
say they did finish it Howard that I'll

2970
02:08:30,610 --> 02:08:29,030
answer you in kind of a roundabout way

2971
02:08:32,970 --> 02:08:30,620
because it tends to get pretty weird but

2972
02:08:35,140 --> 02:08:32,980
when you join the Rosicrucians I'm not a

2973
02:08:36,880 --> 02:08:35,150
official Rosicrucian member but to my

2974
02:08:38,860 --> 02:08:36,890
friend lon join the Rosicrucians so when

2975
02:08:40,360 --> 02:08:38,870
you start you get these seria graphs and

2976
02:08:41,380 --> 02:08:40,370
you start in this way that you started

2977
02:08:44,380 --> 02:08:41,390
in the gym with these little tiny

2978
02:08:46,090 --> 02:08:44,390
weights there are exercises in the early

2979
02:08:48,030 --> 02:08:46,100
phases of Rosicrucianism and in a lot of

2980
02:08:50,979 --> 02:08:48,040
other esoteric communities where you

2981
02:08:53,620 --> 02:08:50,989
start actually experimenting with moving

2982
02:08:56,290 --> 02:08:53,630
things with your mind I know that's a

2983
02:08:57,520 --> 02:08:56,300
hugely ridiculed subject but later on

2984
02:09:01,150 --> 02:08:57,530
there was this character Edie

2985
02:09:03,010 --> 02:09:01,160
Leedskalnin who made this amazing park

2986
02:09:06,189 --> 02:09:03,020
out of stone he was a weird savant

2987
02:09:08,800 --> 02:09:06,199
himself Coral Castle it's called he

2988
02:09:10,990 --> 02:09:08,810
never let anybody help him move the

2989
02:09:12,490 --> 02:09:11,000
stones he never had cranes he never had

2990
02:09:14,260 --> 02:09:12,500
anything else the only thing he was ever

2991
02:09:16,270 --> 02:09:14,270
photographed has he had a radio for some

2992
02:09:18,580 --> 02:09:16,280
reason an old cheap radio a bunch of

2993
02:09:19,630 --> 02:09:18,590
copper wires and something to do with

2994
02:09:21,400 --> 02:09:19,640
water and may

2995
02:09:24,160 --> 02:09:21,410
genetics and he would never let anybody

2996
02:09:26,050 --> 02:09:24,170
see him do it but somehow him all by

2997
02:09:28,150 --> 02:09:26,060
himself with the outdated machinery were

2998
02:09:31,900 --> 02:09:28,160
able to lift these incredibly large

2999
02:09:35,020 --> 02:09:31,910
stones in a lot of really ancient occult

3000
02:09:36,850 --> 02:09:35,030
literature and not just in Egypt and a

3001
02:09:39,490 --> 02:09:36,860
lot of places in the east and in the

3002
02:09:41,950 --> 02:09:39,500
Persian cultures your third eye allows

3003
02:09:43,180 --> 02:09:41,960
you to have this relationship with

3004
02:09:44,470 --> 02:09:43,190
material and I know this sounds

3005
02:09:46,570 --> 02:09:44,480
absolutely insane I'm just talking about

3006
02:09:48,370 --> 02:09:46,580
this is one of the possible ideas but

3007
02:09:50,650 --> 02:09:48,380
there's quite a body of information

3008
02:09:54,550 --> 02:09:50,660
about this you learn to lift things with

3009
02:09:57,430 --> 02:09:54,560
your mind the ultimate test of certain

3010
02:09:59,260 --> 02:09:57,440
types of accomplishment in the occult

3011
02:10:02,500 --> 02:09:59,270
circles is the ability to interact with

3012
02:10:04,240 --> 02:10:02,510
material matter with your mind and so

3013
02:10:06,160 --> 02:10:04,250
there's some really interesting legends

3014
02:10:08,470 --> 02:10:06,170
about people who were able to lift these

3015
02:10:10,600 --> 02:10:08,480
giant giant stones not using external

3016
02:10:12,040 --> 02:10:10,610
technology but just using something to

3017
02:10:13,750 --> 02:10:12,050
do with the way our mind interacts the

3018
02:10:15,010 --> 02:10:13,760
other idea that's out there that's

3019
02:10:16,590 --> 02:10:15,020
really interesting is if you know a

3020
02:10:19,240 --> 02:10:16,600
little bit about sound waves

3021
02:10:24,250 --> 02:10:19,250
Venise and i in fact went to that

3022
02:10:27,490 --> 02:10:24,260
College in Pasadena where kalbert

3023
02:10:30,160 --> 02:10:27,500
Einstein store Caltech and we visited a

3024
02:10:31,330 --> 02:10:30,170
guy there named John John Lee we visited

3025
02:10:32,620 --> 02:10:31,340
him for completely other reason but it

3026
02:10:34,960 --> 02:10:32,630
turned out his day job is to make things

3027
02:10:36,670 --> 02:10:34,970
levitate he levitated a spider for us

3028
02:10:38,710 --> 02:10:36,680
when we were there and the spider hated

3029
02:10:41,410 --> 02:10:38,720
it spider did not enjoy it but anyway

3030
02:10:43,990 --> 02:10:41,420
three sounds three octaves of sound

3031
02:10:47,230 --> 02:10:44,000
cancel out gravity so you can use sound

3032
02:10:49,900 --> 02:10:47,240
waves to cancel out gravity also the

3033
02:10:53,140 --> 02:10:49,910
Germans taught us that to counter

3034
02:10:54,070 --> 02:10:53,150
rotating magnets to circular magnets

3035
02:10:56,020 --> 02:10:54,080
when you put it next to each other and

3036
02:10:59,440 --> 02:10:56,030
counter rotate them causes things to

3037
02:11:01,030 --> 02:10:59,450
lift so there are natural ways if you if

3038
02:11:02,800 --> 02:11:01,040
you're smart enough and if you interact

3039
02:11:05,890 --> 02:11:02,810
with nature enough and if you understand

3040
02:11:07,810 --> 02:11:05,900
things like magnetism and properties of

3041
02:11:08,920 --> 02:11:07,820
water and thermodynamics and stuff there

3042
02:11:10,420 --> 02:11:08,930
are several people who've proven

3043
02:11:13,170 --> 02:11:10,430
throughout history that there's ways to

3044
02:11:20,590 --> 02:11:13,180
lift stones that don't involve cranes

3045
02:11:23,740 --> 02:11:20,600
okay then you are you proposing that to

3046
02:11:24,540 --> 02:11:23,750
go from Aswan 500 miles up to the Giza

3047
02:11:28,750 --> 02:11:24,550
Plateau

3048
02:11:30,730 --> 02:11:28,760
they just floated them I okay wait wait

3049
02:11:31,580 --> 02:11:30,740
for mission I literally did an animation

3050
02:11:33,350 --> 02:11:31,590
of that exact

3051
02:11:35,030 --> 02:11:33,360
and I cannot say whether it's absolutely

3052
02:11:38,720 --> 02:11:35,040
true or not but that to me seems like

3053
02:11:41,060 --> 02:11:38,730
one of the as bizarre as it is it's not

3054
02:11:43,520 --> 02:11:41,070
bizarre it's not bizarre I can tell you

3055
02:11:46,790 --> 02:11:43,530
how they didn't do it they didn't drag

3056
02:11:49,460 --> 02:11:46,800
him across the desert that did not

3057
02:11:53,150 --> 02:11:49,470
happen I did that I did the math once

3058
02:11:57,500 --> 02:11:53,160
okay so you got 500 miles and you've got

3059
02:11:59,450 --> 02:11:57,510
a 70 ton stone like red granite like it

3060
02:12:01,640 --> 02:11:59,460
you know that's above the relieving

3061
02:12:04,330 --> 02:12:01,650
chambers or the relieving chambers above

3062
02:12:09,580 --> 02:12:04,340
the King's Chamber right okay so 70 tons

3063
02:12:12,590 --> 02:12:09,590
70 tons moving one foot

3064
02:12:14,930 --> 02:12:12,600
let's I've got to go back and look at my

3065
02:12:19,370 --> 02:12:14,940
exact calculations but let's say one

3066
02:12:22,660 --> 02:12:19,380
foot per hour you know how many you know

3067
02:12:27,670 --> 02:12:22,670
how long it takes to go from Hoss wand

3068
02:12:33,200 --> 02:12:30,950
absolutely literally not possible do you

3069
02:12:35,450 --> 02:12:33,210
know how long how much time that is no

3070
02:12:38,390 --> 02:12:35,460
well it's not 20 years I can tell you

3071
02:12:40,940 --> 02:12:38,400
that well whoever came with that 20 year

3072
02:12:42,410 --> 02:12:40,950
idea I think might've been Zahi clearly

3073
02:12:44,750 --> 02:12:42,420
not I mean just just not the case

3074
02:12:47,900 --> 02:12:44,760
obvious obfuscation of the facts it's

3075
02:12:49,670 --> 02:12:47,910
none of the math works right none of the

3076
02:12:52,760 --> 02:12:49,680
math works no matter how you try to

3077
02:12:57,650 --> 02:12:52,770
figure it and the reason why the 20

3078
02:13:00,650 --> 02:12:57,660
years doesn't work for the obvious stuff

3079
02:13:03,350 --> 02:13:00,660
two and a half million stones coming

3080
02:13:06,110 --> 02:13:03,360
from the limestone quarry across the

3081
02:13:08,600 --> 02:13:06,120
Nile right put on boats the boats would

3082
02:13:12,680 --> 02:13:08,610
have sunk by the way and and across the

3083
02:13:14,960 --> 02:13:12,690
Nile the if you go look at a Khufu's

3084
02:13:16,580 --> 02:13:14,970
boat right this magnificent and it's

3085
02:13:19,760 --> 02:13:16,590
gorgeous right it's gorgeous

3086
02:13:22,310 --> 02:13:19,770
put a 70-ton limestone block in that and

3087
02:13:27,170 --> 02:13:22,320
watch how long it floats yeah yep

3088
02:13:29,840 --> 02:13:27,180
okay so and the current the current they

3089
02:13:31,520 --> 02:13:29,850
didn't have boat motors allegedly so how

3090
02:13:33,920 --> 02:13:31,530
are they fighting the current to get

3091
02:13:35,480 --> 02:13:33,930
these 70-ton blocks up the river number

3092
02:13:37,760 --> 02:13:35,490
one would be down the river with the

3093
02:13:40,820 --> 02:13:37,770
current but across the river from the

3094
02:13:42,380 --> 02:13:40,830
limestone quarry watch the blob there

3095
02:13:44,000 --> 02:13:42,390
wouldn't even be enough room on the boat

3096
02:13:44,569 --> 02:13:44,010
for all the people you'd need to paddle

3097
02:13:50,450 --> 02:13:44,579
it

3098
02:13:52,490 --> 02:13:50,460
so anyway so going back and this whole

3099
02:13:55,220 --> 02:13:52,500
thing will they would have to place a

3100
02:14:00,979 --> 02:13:55,230
stone every two and a half minutes right

3101
02:14:04,040 --> 02:14:00,989
to fit it into this 20 year timetable go

3102
02:14:08,270 --> 02:14:04,050
over and watch them mine rocks today in

3103
02:14:10,339 --> 02:14:08,280
the modern aspect okay it takes them so

3104
02:14:13,640 --> 02:14:10,349
long forget the two and a half minutes

3105
02:14:17,810 --> 02:14:13,650
so if you look at what it takes to mine

3106
02:14:20,330 --> 02:14:17,820
one block you're now looking at 200 250

3107
02:14:23,899 --> 02:14:20,340
300 years to mine two and a half million

3108
02:14:26,299 --> 02:14:23,909
stones so don't hit me and that's just

3109
02:14:29,089 --> 02:14:26,309
that aspect of it forget about

3110
02:14:33,700 --> 02:14:29,099
everything else the leveling of the the

3111
02:14:36,950 --> 02:14:33,710
foundation the the the red granite

3112
02:14:39,589 --> 02:14:36,960
feeding everybody now and there's one

3113
02:14:44,359 --> 02:14:39,599
other aspect I want you to address this

3114
02:14:47,600 --> 02:14:44,369
we have one two let's let's go basic we

3115
02:14:50,689 --> 02:14:47,610
have five fairly large pyramids that

3116
02:14:53,810 --> 02:14:50,699
were allegedly built in the seventy five

3117
02:14:56,209 --> 02:14:53,820
years before the Great Pyramid right and

3118
02:14:58,280 --> 02:14:56,219
you can stretch it out let's say it was

3119
02:15:00,950 --> 02:14:58,290
a hundred and fifty years the amount of

3120
02:15:04,879 --> 02:15:00,960
people that it took to make the bent

3121
02:15:07,310 --> 02:15:04,889
pyramid the red pyramid this and so for

3122
02:15:08,870 --> 02:15:07,320
the step two to build all of those you

3123
02:15:11,540 --> 02:15:08,880
have the same amount of people involved

3124
02:15:15,770 --> 02:15:11,550
with that the same amount of people

3125
02:15:17,629 --> 02:15:15,780
right so you were able to go and build

3126
02:15:21,830 --> 02:15:17,639
each one of these projects and then at

3127
02:15:23,510 --> 02:15:21,840
the very end slap I'm serious slap the

3128
02:15:24,140 --> 02:15:23,520
Great Pyramid together like it was

3129
02:15:27,799 --> 02:15:24,150
nothing

3130
02:15:30,410 --> 02:15:27,809
and the math doesn't work it days it

3131
02:15:33,229 --> 02:15:30,420
simply doesn't work it there's no way

3132
02:15:34,879 --> 02:15:33,239
that anybody can convince me that it was

3133
02:15:37,729 --> 02:15:34,889
done and done the way that they have

3134
02:15:40,100 --> 02:15:37,739
proposed there's a lot of new things

3135
02:15:42,589 --> 02:15:40,110
about how it appears that the pyramid

3136
02:15:45,140 --> 02:15:42,599
was under water for a long time too and

3137
02:15:47,450 --> 02:15:45,150
it may have been there before our idea

3138
02:15:50,330 --> 02:15:47,460
of what an Egyptian is even existed that

3139
02:15:52,549 --> 02:15:50,340
it's this enigma that comes from so far

3140
02:15:54,410 --> 02:15:52,559
back that we don't even know if it was

3141
02:15:54,610 --> 02:15:54,420
humans that built it yeah you can see

3142
02:15:59,890 --> 02:15:54,620
the

3143
02:16:03,460 --> 02:15:59,900
Great Pyramid you know about it like a

3144
02:16:05,470 --> 02:16:03,470
quarter of the way up you can see where

3145
02:16:07,510 --> 02:16:05,480
it was underwater I mean you can see

3146
02:16:09,010 --> 02:16:07,520
with your eye can't you yeah there's

3147
02:16:10,420 --> 02:16:09,020
some shells and all kinds of stuff all

3148
02:16:11,950 --> 02:16:10,430
over if you're actually looking at it

3149
02:16:14,140 --> 02:16:11,960
that clearly it was underwater for a

3150
02:16:17,710 --> 02:16:14,150
long time and so what does that tell you

3151
02:16:20,140 --> 02:16:17,720
how are we going from someplace so long

3152
02:16:23,200 --> 02:16:20,150
ago that there might not have been

3153
02:16:24,520 --> 02:16:23,210
people around when it was there and

3154
02:16:25,840 --> 02:16:24,530
we've talked about this before when

3155
02:16:27,640 --> 02:16:25,850
you're in the pyramid the pyramid was

3156
02:16:28,390 --> 02:16:27,650
not built to be friendly to human

3157
02:16:30,370 --> 02:16:28,400
architecture

3158
02:16:32,820 --> 02:16:30,380
if you swiveled at the hip like you were

3159
02:16:34,480 --> 02:16:32,830
a velociraptor the pyramid would subtly

3160
02:16:36,790 --> 02:16:34,490
suddenly makes sense from an

3161
02:16:38,770 --> 02:16:36,800
architectural standpoint because things

3162
02:16:42,160 --> 02:16:38,780
that walk like kangaroos or

3163
02:16:43,750 --> 02:16:42,170
velociraptors or things like that are

3164
02:16:45,190 --> 02:16:43,760
perfect and comfortable in there I'm not

3165
02:16:48,730 --> 02:16:45,200
saying that I think that dinosaurs built

3166
02:16:51,820 --> 02:16:48,740
the pyramids but clearly well it appears

3167
02:16:54,459 --> 02:16:51,830
as though that thing had completely it

3168
02:16:57,790 --> 02:16:54,469
wasn't a tomb for the King as I think

3169
02:17:01,300 --> 02:16:57,800
everyone agrees but it served some

3170
02:17:02,470 --> 02:17:01,310
purpose and it took so much trouble to

3171
02:17:05,260 --> 02:17:02,480
put the thing there and it's been there

3172
02:17:07,360 --> 02:17:05,270
for so long that it might turn out we'll

3173
02:17:08,950 --> 02:17:07,370
never know but the only thing that we

3174
02:17:10,510 --> 02:17:08,960
seem to be able to know and stay pretty

3175
02:17:13,360 --> 02:17:10,520
conclusively is that the things we were

3176
02:17:14,919 --> 02:17:13,370
taught in school about it don't you know

3177
02:17:17,440 --> 02:17:14,929
don't aren't are true just simply aren't

3178
02:17:19,720 --> 02:17:17,450
true and it's you know you probably we

3179
02:17:21,340 --> 02:17:19,730
all know people who are pedantic and

3180
02:17:23,080 --> 02:17:21,350
would rather make something up than

3181
02:17:26,080 --> 02:17:23,090
admit that they have no idea and it

3182
02:17:29,020 --> 02:17:26,090
seems like the humanity not the science

3183
02:17:31,350 --> 02:17:29,030
but the humanity of Egyptology might in

3184
02:17:33,850 --> 02:17:31,360
some cases be offering just some

3185
02:17:36,940 --> 02:17:33,860
explanation in lieu of no explanation

3186
02:17:40,169 --> 02:17:36,950
now we're talking about Giza but there

3187
02:17:42,430 --> 02:17:40,179
are other pyramids around the world

3188
02:17:46,030 --> 02:17:42,440
certainly all of the Mayan stuff

3189
02:17:52,419 --> 02:17:46,040
everything that is in Mexico China and

3190
02:17:56,680 --> 02:17:52,429
where these these megalithic monuments

3191
02:18:00,070 --> 02:17:56,690
have all survived time when everything

3192
02:18:03,669 --> 02:18:00,080
else around it has crumbles earthquakes

3193
02:18:05,669 --> 02:18:03,679
age you know overtaken by forests or

3194
02:18:06,969 --> 02:18:05,679
whatever it may be

3195
02:18:10,310 --> 02:18:06,979
pollution

3196
02:18:12,320 --> 02:18:10,320
they but but the pyramid structure in

3197
02:18:16,429 --> 02:18:12,330
the megalithic structure and those basic

3198
02:18:19,160 --> 02:18:16,439
designs are all still standing now is I

3199
02:18:20,750 --> 02:18:19,170
don't want to say that that crazy word

3200
02:18:23,780 --> 02:18:20,760
coincidence but there's something going

3201
02:18:28,849 --> 02:18:23,790
on here you know they say hunger is the

3202
02:18:30,950 --> 02:18:28,859
best sauce beauty is this weird strategy

3203
02:18:33,679 --> 02:18:30,960
for creating something that's going to

3204
02:18:35,389 --> 02:18:33,689
be timeless that there's this actual

3205
02:18:36,740 --> 02:18:35,399
physical thing that is a little bit

3206
02:18:38,719 --> 02:18:36,750
strange and it's gonna seem like a

3207
02:18:41,870 --> 02:18:38,729
tangent but it's not that if you know

3208
02:18:44,540 --> 02:18:41,880
about tuning a guitar we tuned to 440 in

3209
02:18:47,259 --> 02:18:44,550
middle C and that's a very modern thing

3210
02:18:50,330 --> 02:18:47,269
before like before world war ii the

3211
02:18:52,160 --> 02:18:50,340
vienna accord was in every one in the

3212
02:18:54,889 --> 02:18:52,170
world I'll tune their instruments 2/4

3213
02:18:57,139 --> 02:18:54,899
432 Hertz which happens to be the

3214
02:18:58,580 --> 02:18:57,149
background hum of the universe and it's

3215
02:19:00,440 --> 02:18:58,590
a whole other conversation why we moved

3216
02:19:03,379 --> 02:19:00,450
it away from that but if you tune your

3217
02:19:06,169 --> 02:19:03,389
guitar to 432 it actually stays in two

3218
02:19:08,089 --> 02:19:06,179
longer the guitar itself for some reason

3219
02:19:09,889 --> 02:19:08,099
nobody understands the guitar stays in

3220
02:19:13,310 --> 02:19:09,899
tune the effect of the wood is sweeter

3221
02:19:15,080 --> 02:19:13,320
and so Plato and Pythagoras and several

3222
02:19:17,060 --> 02:19:15,090
of the people that were trying to get

3223
02:19:19,009 --> 02:19:17,070
their minds wrapped around Egypt and in

3224
02:19:20,419 --> 02:19:19,019
the East those beautiful Taoist temples

3225
02:19:24,469 --> 02:19:20,429
and the beautiful of tantric yoga

3226
02:19:27,530 --> 02:19:24,479
temples every famous artist has always

3227
02:19:29,690 --> 02:19:27,540
said some version of what really makes

3228
02:19:31,219 --> 02:19:29,700
art timeless is beauty that whether it's

3229
02:19:32,509 --> 02:19:31,229
just the psychological impact of I don't

3230
02:19:35,089 --> 02:19:32,519
want to destroy this thing because it's

3231
02:19:37,419 --> 02:19:35,099
so beautiful or whether creating

3232
02:19:39,589 --> 02:19:37,429
something that is visually and

3233
02:19:41,599 --> 02:19:39,599
vibrationally in tune with the world

3234
02:19:43,610 --> 02:19:41,609
around it just causes a structural

3235
02:19:45,160 --> 02:19:43,620
integrity and so you're right a lot of

3236
02:19:47,719 --> 02:19:45,170
these things there was a building in

3237
02:19:49,550 --> 02:19:47,729
Hiroshi Meyer Nagasaki one of those two

3238
02:19:51,320 --> 02:19:49,560
this beautiful temple that was the only

3239
02:19:53,030 --> 02:19:51,330
thing left standing after an atom bomb

3240
02:19:55,400 --> 02:19:53,040
went off it's an iconic picture of this

3241
02:19:58,310 --> 02:19:55,410
some Shinto shrine that didn't fall over

3242
02:19:59,929 --> 02:19:58,320
so there's again something to do with

3243
02:20:02,260 --> 02:19:59,939
field something it's largely

3244
02:20:04,969 --> 02:20:02,270
psychological but it might turn out that

3245
02:20:06,980 --> 02:20:04,979
beauty is itself a kind of magic that we

3246
02:20:08,420 --> 02:20:06,990
don't understand so everybody who's

3247
02:20:10,520 --> 02:20:08,430
written a good song or done a good

3248
02:20:13,340 --> 02:20:10,530
sculpture there's a timelessness that

3249
02:20:16,160 --> 02:20:13,350
comes from infusing Beauty into a thing

3250
02:20:18,320 --> 02:20:16,170
and if these people did understand that

3251
02:20:19,700 --> 02:20:18,330
there would come times in the future

3252
02:20:19,929 --> 02:20:19,710
where people would degenerate into a

3253
02:20:21,910 --> 02:20:19,939
sort

3254
02:20:24,010 --> 02:20:21,920
of monkey consciousness what are the

3255
02:20:27,069 --> 02:20:24,020
materials what is the geometry what is

3256
02:20:30,969 --> 02:20:27,079
the aesthetic framework that is going to

3257
02:20:32,889 --> 02:20:30,979
immortalize this information and these

3258
02:20:35,290 --> 02:20:32,899
things that are the most beautiful for

3259
02:20:37,300 --> 02:20:35,300
some reason seem to be the most full of

3260
02:20:40,569 --> 02:20:37,310
longevity because everyone respects it

3261
02:20:42,399 --> 02:20:40,579
there's you know certain religious blips

3262
02:20:44,139 --> 02:20:42,409
in history that have been hell-bent on

3263
02:20:46,120 --> 02:20:44,149
destroying the beauty of the past and

3264
02:20:48,130 --> 02:20:46,130
but that notwithstanding if you don't

3265
02:20:49,840 --> 02:20:48,140
have a national malicious force making

3266
02:20:53,290 --> 02:20:49,850
something beautiful as a fantastic way

3267
02:20:58,510 --> 02:20:53,300
to make it last do you still do you have

3268
02:21:00,219 --> 02:20:58,520
contacts over in Cairo and Giza sure I

3269
02:21:01,989 --> 02:21:00,229
have a whole separate not an actual

3270
02:21:05,859 --> 02:21:01,999
second family like baseball players have

3271
02:21:07,510 --> 02:21:05,869
but I have a I have a yeah I have an

3272
02:21:10,179 --> 02:21:07,520
extended family there you know John's

3273
02:21:12,910 --> 02:21:10,189
whole apparatus Mohammed at Quest travel

3274
02:21:14,769 --> 02:21:12,920
and Suhaila is this just iconic

3275
02:21:16,840 --> 02:21:14,779
personality over there the people that

3276
02:21:21,370 --> 02:21:16,850
were the infrastructure of John's tours

3277
02:21:23,229 --> 02:21:21,380
hila thing over they are nobody else

3278
02:21:25,420 --> 02:21:23,239
well if I say their names but anyway

3279
02:21:27,279 --> 02:21:25,430
they're all I'm very close to them and

3280
02:21:28,960 --> 02:21:27,289
because of what I've been doing I've got

3281
02:21:32,800 --> 02:21:28,970
such an amazing group of people in this

3282
02:21:34,510 --> 02:21:32,810
new in the new project that all the time

3283
02:21:35,609 --> 02:21:34,520
somebody affiliated with magical Egypt

3284
02:21:38,050 --> 02:21:35,619
is over there

3285
02:21:40,120 --> 02:21:38,060
we're going over with Robert Schoch and

3286
02:21:42,219 --> 02:21:40,130
we're gonna start doing tours ourselves

3287
02:21:44,949 --> 02:21:42,229
over there at some point starting this

3288
02:21:46,779 --> 02:21:44,959
year so we do have an active kind of

3289
02:21:47,979 --> 02:21:46,789
family that extends over to that place

3290
02:21:50,469 --> 02:21:47,989
and I just I find that one of the most

3291
02:21:53,639 --> 02:21:50,479
interesting places in the world obvious

3292
02:21:58,149 --> 02:21:53,649
reasons well what is they saying about

3293
02:22:00,309 --> 02:21:58,159
the the new chamber above the Grand

3294
02:22:03,910 --> 02:22:00,319
Gallery that was discovered there's

3295
02:22:05,739 --> 02:22:03,920
there's a couple of there's a couple of

3296
02:22:08,800 --> 02:22:05,749
rumors going around that they they

3297
02:22:10,840 --> 02:22:08,810
retrieved artifacts from there and that

3298
02:22:13,300 --> 02:22:10,850
they're gonna be on display at the Cairo

3299
02:22:16,149 --> 02:22:13,310
Museum when it opens up later this year

3300
02:22:19,029 --> 02:22:16,159
have you heard anything about that wow I

3301
02:22:21,460 --> 02:22:19,039
have not I'd be most surprised if they

3302
02:22:23,830 --> 02:22:21,470
displayed anything from everything I can

3303
02:22:25,569 --> 02:22:23,840
tell that superstructure that's there is

3304
02:22:26,800 --> 02:22:25,579
there to keep us from finding something

3305
02:22:29,979 --> 02:22:26,810
out about the pyramid so I'd be

3306
02:22:31,000 --> 02:22:29,989
extremely surprised if not if they found

3307
02:22:33,309 --> 02:22:31,010
something of course they're gonna find

3308
02:22:33,670 --> 02:22:33,319
something but how they manage breaking

3309
02:22:36,969 --> 02:22:33,680
it to the

3310
02:22:38,650 --> 02:22:36,979
public is I would be very surprised if

3311
02:22:40,240 --> 02:22:38,660
they were just open and honest about it

3312
02:22:42,639 --> 02:22:40,250
I'd say that they would get in there

3313
02:22:44,679 --> 02:22:42,649
themselves and prevent us from learning

3314
02:22:46,300 --> 02:22:44,689
like they have done for my whole

3315
02:22:48,519 --> 02:22:46,310
lifetime in your whole lifetime well

3316
02:22:50,170 --> 02:22:48,529
what are your contacts telling you is

3317
02:22:52,900 --> 02:22:50,180
there any evidence that they're trying

3318
02:22:54,939 --> 02:22:52,910
to or have tried to get into it have

3319
02:22:57,250 --> 02:22:54,949
they you know closed down the Great

3320
02:23:00,280 --> 02:22:57,260
Pyramid and you know put up some caution

3321
02:23:02,349 --> 02:23:00,290
tape some grinds well if you guys seam

3322
02:23:04,150 --> 02:23:02,359
tape the rollout of this whole thing

3323
02:23:07,660 --> 02:23:04,160
that there's a Mulan group there's this

3324
02:23:09,130 --> 02:23:07,670
group from Japan yeah it's put a bunch

3325
02:23:10,660 --> 02:23:09,140
of photosensitive plates in the pyramid

3326
02:23:12,880 --> 02:23:10,670
and there's these cosmic particles

3327
02:23:14,889 --> 02:23:12,890
mulan's that pass through everything but

3328
02:23:16,929 --> 02:23:14,899
you can tell from the path of them sort

3329
02:23:18,580 --> 02:23:16,939
of like taking a sonogram of a pregnant

3330
02:23:20,410 --> 02:23:18,590
woman you can tell where the crevasses

3331
02:23:21,760 --> 02:23:20,420
are and the pyramids and stuff and they

3332
02:23:23,380 --> 02:23:21,770
seem to have found something and the

3333
02:23:25,570 --> 02:23:23,390
minute well first of all there was

3334
02:23:26,650 --> 02:23:25,580
organized resistance to letting them do

3335
02:23:28,900 --> 02:23:26,660
it in the first place but they somehow

3336
02:23:31,750 --> 02:23:28,910
wound their way around that and they got

3337
02:23:33,490 --> 02:23:31,760
to do it and then instantly Zahi Hawass

3338
02:23:35,559 --> 02:23:33,500
started holding press releases where he

3339
02:23:37,750 --> 02:23:35,569
announced that we're not gonna take

3340
02:23:39,010 --> 02:23:37,760
anything seriously from this finding and

3341
02:23:40,330 --> 02:23:39,020
essentially he said we already know

3342
02:23:42,189 --> 02:23:40,340
there's nothing there so no matter what

3343
02:23:45,250 --> 02:23:42,199
these people find there's gonna be

3344
02:23:46,929 --> 02:23:45,260
nothing there and that he somehow placed

3345
02:23:49,269 --> 02:23:46,939
himself at the very pinnacle of the

3346
02:23:51,370 --> 02:23:49,279
decision-making process about whether to

3347
02:23:53,559 --> 02:23:51,380
go forward and how to present it so his

3348
02:23:55,870 --> 02:23:53,569
whole contribution was whatever's there

3349
02:23:57,370 --> 02:23:55,880
we need to have a special counsel drawn

3350
02:23:59,740 --> 02:23:57,380
up and we need to talk about it for

3351
02:24:02,200 --> 02:23:59,750
several years before we decide whether

3352
02:24:04,059 --> 02:24:02,210
there's anything there so in his kind of

3353
02:24:06,820 --> 02:24:04,069
over-simplistic way he was already

3354
02:24:08,979 --> 02:24:06,830
admitting he's there specifically to

3355
02:24:11,590 --> 02:24:08,989
prevent any information from coming out

3356
02:24:13,900 --> 02:24:11,600
about this thing and it sounds like kind

3357
02:24:16,179 --> 02:24:13,910
of a parent a parent might take on this

3358
02:24:18,700 --> 02:24:16,189
but if you look back over the years at

3359
02:24:21,189 --> 02:24:18,710
the role that this particular guy has

3360
02:24:23,800 --> 02:24:21,199
played he seems more like a guard dog

3361
02:24:25,570 --> 02:24:23,810
than somebody who's there to usher out

3362
02:24:28,570 --> 02:24:25,580
new findings about the pyramids why

3363
02:24:31,870 --> 02:24:28,580
would he is it because he can't get away

3364
02:24:35,189 --> 02:24:31,880
and why is he injecting himself into the

3365
02:24:38,229 --> 02:24:35,199
narrative because he's not part of it

3366
02:24:40,360 --> 02:24:38,239
this is a strange thing and I'll preface

3367
02:24:42,400 --> 02:24:40,370
this by saying that this is like I

3368
02:24:43,599 --> 02:24:42,410
wasn't present for any of this to have

3369
02:24:45,969 --> 02:24:43,609
happened but if you go back and actually

3370
02:24:46,990 --> 02:24:45,979
look at him this strange thing that no

3371
02:24:48,730 --> 02:24:47,000
one talks about the end

3372
02:24:52,360 --> 02:24:48,740
Casey foundation I know you're friends

3373
02:24:54,720 --> 02:24:52,370
with David Wilcock yeah has some

3374
02:24:56,770 --> 02:24:54,730
connection that Casey anyway Casey was a

3375
02:24:58,540 --> 02:24:56,780
psychic at the turn of the century who

3376
02:25:03,070 --> 02:24:58,550
somehow ended up with a lot of money and

3377
02:25:05,890 --> 02:25:03,080
there was a funding body that would send

3378
02:25:08,440 --> 02:25:05,900
promising people to this Edgar Cayce

3379
02:25:09,820 --> 02:25:08,450
foundation where you learn as a terrace

3380
02:25:14,460 --> 02:25:09,830
ISM in the history of the cult and

3381
02:25:16,600 --> 02:25:14,470
whatnot and it turns out Zahi Hawass was

3382
02:25:19,330 --> 02:25:16,610
funded to go through the Edgar Cayce

3383
02:25:22,450 --> 02:25:19,340
foundation before he got into place

3384
02:25:25,060 --> 02:25:22,460
there so whether he did that thing that

3385
02:25:26,650 --> 02:25:25,070
the terrorists were rumored to have done

3386
02:25:28,120 --> 02:25:26,660
where they take flying classes so they

3387
02:25:30,160 --> 02:25:28,130
could fly airplanes into the World Trade

3388
02:25:32,820 --> 02:25:30,170
Center unless he was there intentionally

3389
02:25:36,190 --> 02:25:32,830
as a double agent it might turn out that

3390
02:25:37,780 --> 02:25:36,200
esoteric societies from around the world

3391
02:25:39,340 --> 02:25:37,790
in him all of time know that there's

3392
02:25:41,410 --> 02:25:39,350
something there but that's the whole

3393
02:25:43,120 --> 02:25:41,420
process of initiation all process of

3394
02:25:45,760 --> 02:25:43,130
joining an esoteric or fraternal

3395
02:25:47,980 --> 02:25:45,770
organization you have to grow to a

3396
02:25:50,050 --> 02:25:47,990
certain point before you can handle the

3397
02:25:52,000 --> 02:25:50,060
truth of whatever's there I know that

3398
02:25:54,850 --> 02:25:52,010
sounds like a weird cliche or something

3399
02:25:56,500 --> 02:25:54,860
Jack Nicholson would say but since

3400
02:25:57,910 --> 02:25:56,510
you're asking me and I don't have any

3401
02:26:00,730 --> 02:25:57,920
concrete evidence of any of this but it

3402
02:26:03,100 --> 02:26:00,740
is odd that the people that are most

3403
02:26:04,780 --> 02:26:03,110
centrally situated in occult circles are

3404
02:26:06,850 --> 02:26:04,790
the people and by the way these are the

3405
02:26:10,150 --> 02:26:06,860
English Egyptologists who discovered

3406
02:26:11,680 --> 02:26:10,160
this Arthur Edward wait and a lot of the

3407
02:26:13,510 --> 02:26:11,690
people from the Golden Dawn there was a

3408
02:26:15,670 --> 02:26:13,520
big overlap between the esoteric and

3409
02:26:17,920 --> 02:26:15,680
cult communities in England and the

3410
02:26:19,210 --> 02:26:17,930
people that were over there studying the

3411
02:26:20,980 --> 02:26:19,220
pyramids and telling the rest of the

3412
02:26:22,840 --> 02:26:20,990
world about them and there's always been

3413
02:26:24,460 --> 02:26:22,850
this thing at the center of the occult

3414
02:26:25,980 --> 02:26:24,470
and of the occult community that there

3415
02:26:28,480 --> 02:26:25,990
are some things that just aren't

3416
02:26:29,800 --> 02:26:28,490
appropriate for the world in general to

3417
02:26:33,190 --> 02:26:29,810
know until you've done this certain

3418
02:26:35,140 --> 02:26:33,200
preparation in yourself and there seems

3419
02:26:37,390 --> 02:26:35,150
to be something wrapped up in the figure

3420
02:26:39,490 --> 02:26:37,400
of Zahi Hawass that he comes from this

3421
02:26:42,010 --> 02:26:39,500
place that recognizes these occult

3422
02:26:44,020 --> 02:26:42,020
traditions and yet outwardly he's the

3423
02:26:46,030 --> 02:26:44,030
man who's the very first to show up with

3424
02:26:48,130 --> 02:26:46,040
a fire hose and put out your fire if you

3425
02:26:50,620 --> 02:26:48,140
start trying to draw the world's

3426
02:26:52,570 --> 02:26:50,630
attention to something anomalous so this

3427
02:26:55,600 --> 02:26:52,580
goes back to that idea of pre-pubescent

3428
02:26:57,610 --> 02:26:55,610
post-pubescent cultures and there seems

3429
02:26:59,230 --> 02:26:57,620
to be some things that have to do with

3430
02:27:01,960 --> 02:26:59,240
the occult

3431
02:27:04,360 --> 02:27:01,970
the public is not allowed to know just

3432
02:27:05,440 --> 02:27:04,370
like Robert temple got contacted by the

3433
02:27:08,200 --> 02:27:05,450
government a certain point when he

3434
02:27:11,620 --> 02:27:08,210
started writing about Sirius the star

3435
02:27:15,130 --> 02:27:11,630
and about how the eye of Providence in

3436
02:27:16,300 --> 02:27:15,140
the masonry deals with this idea that

3437
02:27:18,370 --> 02:27:16,310
some of our culture might have come from

3438
02:27:19,990 --> 02:27:18,380
Sirius that there's these ideas that all

3439
02:27:21,790 --> 02:27:20,000
sound crazy when you hear them for the

3440
02:27:23,830 --> 02:27:21,800
first time but when you look at how

3441
02:27:26,110 --> 02:27:23,840
smart and how educated the people are

3442
02:27:27,430 --> 02:27:26,120
the champion this or how these are the

3443
02:27:28,960 --> 02:27:27,440
central secrets of some of the biggest

3444
02:27:31,120 --> 02:27:28,970
fraternal organizations in the world

3445
02:27:33,730 --> 02:27:31,130
there's clearly something there that's

3446
02:27:36,070 --> 02:27:33,740
not for public attention or at least

3447
02:27:37,270 --> 02:27:36,080
wasn't at times past and that's part of

3448
02:27:39,430 --> 02:27:37,280
the reason why it's created such a

3449
02:27:42,040 --> 02:27:39,440
massive curiosity for the world but

3450
02:27:43,900 --> 02:27:42,050
there's something here that we all know

3451
02:27:45,400 --> 02:27:43,910
is there it's like a dog that smells a

3452
02:27:46,750 --> 02:27:45,410
steak you know in another room I know

3453
02:27:49,450 --> 02:27:46,760
there's something there and I'm being

3454
02:27:51,190 --> 02:27:49,460
drawn to it but there's a door in the

3455
02:27:52,120 --> 02:27:51,200
way and I keep knocking at that door but

3456
02:27:53,740 --> 02:27:52,130
there's somebody on the other side of

3457
02:27:57,130 --> 02:27:53,750
the door that doesn't want me to know

3458
02:28:00,240 --> 02:27:57,140
what's their chance Gardiner thank you

3459
02:28:04,390 --> 02:28:00,250
for this conversation now you said that

3460
02:28:08,230 --> 02:28:04,400
it'll be this Friday Episode five will

3461
02:28:10,660 --> 02:28:08,240
be released available available to the

3462
02:28:13,420 --> 02:28:10,670
world great and small alike statesmen

3463
02:28:16,060 --> 02:28:13,430
and peasants alike have can watch the

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controversial and taboo subject I'm

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thank you for everything that you do and

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give my best to Vinny's full you will do

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she's right here Kenny sends his best

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Jimmy you were the king the King thank

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you so much for having me

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thank you chant behave and be well

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that's all you need to do if you say so

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- next time see ya chants Gardner

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to black open lines are next

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welcome back fade to black

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Pramila to be turrets Thank You chance

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gardener magical Egypt in magical Egypt

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to magical Egypt calm I got I was

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privileged and honored to check out

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episode 5 today and it's it's the

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visuals the the the audio and the data

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and the knowledge is gonna happen anyway

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right you can close your eyes and listen

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to that an absorbent but we used to are

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watching this and it is unbelievable

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episode 5 like chance said we'll uh

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we'll be out this Friday okay so you got

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George Noory

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via email on how to plug in your

3588
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headphones at the studio I wish you guys

3589
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could read this exchange it's absolutely

3590
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brilliant alright I've opened up the

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phone lines three two three eight to

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let's go to the phones hi your life on

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three two one okay let's go to the next

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02:35:15,690 --> 02:35:13,750
call

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02:35:18,890 --> 02:35:15,700
hi you're live on fader block who's

3598
02:35:21,620 --> 02:35:18,900
calling this is Tara Singh here Jimmy

3599
02:35:27,480 --> 02:35:21,630
this is who Paris

3600
02:35:33,480 --> 02:35:27,490
oh okay you can get okay we'll finish

3601
02:35:36,960 --> 02:35:33,490
eating some what time okay turn me down

3602
02:35:43,100 --> 02:35:36,970
in the background all right so what's on

3603
02:35:50,430 --> 02:35:43,110
your mind tonight terror gas in Chicago

3604
02:35:54,480 --> 02:35:50,440
how are you okay what's on your mind man

3605
02:35:57,150 --> 02:35:54,490
I don't expect is bad anymore

3606
02:35:58,849 --> 02:35:57,160
what stage okay why don't you give me

3607
02:36:02,010 --> 02:35:58,859
why don't you give me a call

3608
02:36:04,969 --> 02:36:02,020
again I got that I got it okay what's on

3609
02:36:12,420 --> 02:36:08,670
I was calling to say about all right

3610
02:36:14,399 --> 02:36:12,430
about you know they don't they'll

3611
02:36:19,349 --> 02:36:14,409
finally let the cat out the bag just

3612
02:36:21,529 --> 02:36:19,359
close it say you say that again I say

3613
02:36:28,590 --> 02:36:21,539
they finally let the cat out the bag

3614
02:36:31,319 --> 02:36:28,600
government admitted to UFOs well let's

3615
02:36:34,529 --> 02:36:31,329
hope that they do and let's let's hope

3616
02:36:38,069 --> 02:36:34,539
that and I really do that they get

3617
02:36:40,319 --> 02:36:38,079
continues whatever it is I'm not I'm I

3618
02:36:41,429 --> 02:36:40,329
said this the other night and I really

3619
02:36:47,719 --> 02:36:41,439
mean it

3620
02:36:50,999 --> 02:36:47,729
that right now before we go and trust

3621
02:36:53,579 --> 02:36:51,009
what the man is saying we need a little

3622
02:36:56,359 --> 02:36:53,589
more track record here because we've

3623
02:36:59,279 --> 02:36:56,369
been lied to for so long and suddenly

3624
02:37:02,249 --> 02:36:59,289
everything has changed well you know I'm

3625
02:37:13,469 --> 02:37:02,259
gonna wade into the water I'm not going

3626
02:37:15,659 --> 02:37:13,479
to jump in yeah you're absolutely right

3627
02:37:17,899 --> 02:37:15,669
terrorists I think we all were shocked

3628
02:37:23,069 --> 02:37:17,909
but you know what we're not gonna know

3629
02:37:25,769 --> 02:37:23,079
after some more time goes on and and and

3630
02:37:28,829 --> 02:37:25,779
gets behind us are we going to

3631
02:37:31,800 --> 02:37:28,839
understand and really know what happened

3632
02:37:34,880 --> 02:37:31,810
back in December we'll find out and you

3633
02:37:37,679 --> 02:37:34,890
know what it just needs to play out and

3634
02:37:41,189 --> 02:37:37,689
and it could be the greatest thing ever

3635
02:37:44,489 --> 02:37:41,199
but we've got we've got to let some more

3636
02:37:46,849 --> 02:37:44,499
time I'm not you know right now when

3637
02:37:53,489 --> 02:37:46,859
does the Pentagon ever been our friend

3638
02:37:55,380 --> 02:37:53,499
when so all of a sudden now now we're

3639
02:37:57,300 --> 02:37:55,390
supposed to go okay it's all cool man

3640
02:37:59,069 --> 02:37:57,310
we'll forget about the path right now we

3641
02:38:01,739 --> 02:37:59,079
believe everything that you are doing

3642
02:38:04,889 --> 02:38:01,749
and it's all in our best interest I'm

3643
02:38:06,479 --> 02:38:04,899
not I'm not I'm not I'm not that now I'm

3644
02:38:11,480 --> 02:38:06,489
not gonna roll like that I'm not gonna

3645
02:38:13,580 --> 02:38:11,490
I'm not going to roll into it like that

3646
02:38:16,880 --> 02:38:13,590
I've got my blinders on I'm gonna step

3647
02:38:20,570 --> 02:38:16,890
back and and and wait it's just like

3648
02:38:23,860 --> 02:38:20,580
anything else you need to you get a new

3649
02:38:26,150 --> 02:38:23,870
job you go through a three-month of

3650
02:38:28,180 --> 02:38:26,160
probationary period right

3651
02:38:30,710 --> 02:38:28,190
same thing here they're on probation

3652
02:38:32,900 --> 02:38:30,720
drop probation we'll see what happens

3653
02:38:35,719 --> 02:38:32,910
thank you Terrace and behaving be well

3654
02:38:39,530 --> 02:38:35,729
man okay thank you

3655
02:38:41,230 --> 02:38:39,540
ah let's go to the next call hi your

3656
02:38:47,450 --> 02:38:41,240
life I'm fade to black who's calling

3657
02:38:51,860 --> 02:38:47,460
hi this is Phil hi Phil how are you I am

3658
02:38:55,100 --> 02:38:51,870
doing okay yeah you know you got a you

3659
02:38:55,730 --> 02:38:55,110
got a call ready man okay so what's up

3660
02:38:58,130 --> 02:38:55,740
man

3661
02:39:01,190 --> 02:38:58,140
and so again I just wanted to say I kind

3662
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of agree you know you you can't trust

3663
02:39:07,969 --> 02:39:04,620
the government do anything for us it

3664
02:39:08,570 --> 02:39:07,979
doesn't seem like now it's gone batshit

3665
02:39:14,540 --> 02:39:08,580
crazy

3666
02:39:17,960 --> 02:39:14,550
so yeah but uh this is a great talk I

3667
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really like this magical Egypt

3668
02:39:26,180 --> 02:39:20,780
I've been studying Egypt for a long time

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big fan of sauce absolutely and you need

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3673
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know what you think but it's amazing

3674
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thank you for thank you I think I can

3675
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afford it probably now of course you can

3676
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you got that you had that fade to black

3677
02:39:51,800 --> 02:39:48,900
discount okay and yes just one thing man

3678
02:39:55,310 --> 02:39:51,810
I just have been doing some meditations

3679
02:39:57,980 --> 02:39:55,320
and I would and I've been using a mantra

3680
02:40:02,150 --> 02:39:57,990
and I would really like to share with

3681
02:40:05,120 --> 02:40:02,160
everybody and and it's just using the

3682
02:40:09,290 --> 02:40:05,130
phrase peace love and whatever you know

3683
02:40:13,940 --> 02:40:09,300
like harmony abundance and just focus on

3684
02:40:16,040 --> 02:40:13,950
that for you know just for you know

3685
02:40:18,680 --> 02:40:16,050
however long you can 10 15 minutes uh

3686
02:40:20,150 --> 02:40:18,690
you know what I really hope yeah I think

3687
02:40:22,640 --> 02:40:20,160
that's great advice we'll get that up

3688
02:40:25,040 --> 02:40:22,650
there in Twitter thank you so much Phil

3689
02:40:28,460 --> 02:40:25,050
what is everybody else's favorite

3690
02:40:30,770 --> 02:40:28,470
mantra do you have one that you use when

3691
02:40:32,599 --> 02:40:30,780
you meditate I would like to I would

3692
02:40:34,370 --> 02:40:32,609
like to know you can go ahead and post

3693
02:40:37,160 --> 02:40:34,380
it right up there in Twitter hi you're

3694
02:40:38,270 --> 02:40:37,170
live on fade to black who's calling me

3695
02:40:43,099 --> 02:40:38,280
what's up Matt

3696
02:40:45,110 --> 02:40:43,109
hey Edie how are you okay I'm gonna try

3697
02:40:48,770 --> 02:40:45,120
to pull together and I'll be quick

3698
02:40:52,219 --> 02:40:48,780
first off you are a demon I did listen

3699
02:40:53,840 --> 02:40:52,229
to you for a few years now and kind of

3700
02:40:56,240 --> 02:40:53,850
you know exploring got on this whole

3701
02:40:58,639 --> 02:40:56,250
thing and you won me over it's kind of

3702
02:40:59,960 --> 02:40:58,649
like I listen to you there and I find

3703
02:41:03,020 --> 02:40:59,970
myself this is more more than I'm like

3704
02:41:05,900 --> 02:41:03,030
sighs my boy and so I grew up with you

3705
02:41:07,969 --> 02:41:05,910
know kind of a gifted older brother who

3706
02:41:10,070 --> 02:41:07,979
was reading newspapers you want to read

3707
02:41:12,020 --> 02:41:10,080
all to wrestle but the one thing I got

3708
02:41:14,300 --> 02:41:12,030
out of it was you know a lot Ness

3709
02:41:15,920 --> 02:41:14,310
monster and you implode and that's you

3710
02:41:18,139 --> 02:41:15,930
know so I went on I'm a football player

3711
02:41:22,250 --> 02:41:18,149
did all that kind of stuff

3712
02:41:26,059 --> 02:41:22,260
but I wanted to tell you after 33 years

3713
02:41:28,210 --> 02:41:26,069
both finally I had a sighting and I'm

3714
02:41:30,950 --> 02:41:28,220
just any sighting this is broad daylight

3715
02:41:31,340 --> 02:41:30,960
at a football camp at 10:30 in the

3716
02:41:36,950 --> 02:41:31,350
morning

3717
02:41:38,599 --> 02:41:36,960
a male rora Ontario or rora Ontario and

3718
02:41:41,330 --> 02:41:38,609
it's over the tree line and we're on the

3719
02:41:42,710 --> 02:41:41,340
grass loved baseball field and all the

3720
02:41:44,960 --> 02:41:42,720
kids are trying to hide just finish the

3721
02:41:47,179 --> 02:41:44,970
stretch with them and you know there is

3722
02:41:51,880 --> 02:41:47,189
broad daylight 60 odd kids the trainer's

3723
02:41:54,500 --> 02:41:51,890
you know the the coaches everybody and

3724
02:41:56,570 --> 02:41:54,510
one kid I hear the voice go what the

3725
02:41:58,820 --> 02:41:56,580
heck is that and they're kind of in a

3726
02:42:02,330 --> 02:41:58,830
big semicircle coming to the grass on

3727
02:42:04,550 --> 02:42:02,340
their knees and my song pay attention

3728
02:42:06,139 --> 02:42:04,560
what tag was that I heard the voice and

3729
02:42:08,090 --> 02:42:06,149
it it was just I don't know it was real

3730
02:42:11,719 --> 02:42:08,100
I look up and there's a tree line that

3731
02:42:14,059 --> 02:42:11,729
is kind of you know once once the tree

3732
02:42:16,130 --> 02:42:14,069
line stops it goes into the baseball

3733
02:42:19,460 --> 02:42:16,140
field but so overtopping the horizon of

3734
02:42:22,040 --> 02:42:19,470
it was I swear to god Jimmy I swear to

3735
02:42:23,599 --> 02:42:22,050
god it and I had two pictures so I'm

3736
02:42:28,900 --> 02:42:23,609
gonna talk to you put that side of it

3737
02:42:31,639 --> 02:42:28,910
was like a 200 foot pool noodle okay

3738
02:42:35,450 --> 02:42:31,649
right there torkoal

3739
02:42:38,300 --> 02:42:35,460
sometimes a glimmer and it was just

3740
02:42:38,780 --> 02:42:38,310
sitting there there's no wind it moved

3741
02:42:41,630 --> 02:42:38,790
into pen

3742
02:42:44,660 --> 02:42:41,640
Lee then it would be so it was there for

3743
02:42:47,390 --> 02:42:44,670
30 minutes it would be so far away way

3744
02:42:50,780 --> 02:42:47,400
off the distance it would be so then I'm

3745
02:42:52,670 --> 02:42:50,790
sudden beating it would hidden in some

3746
02:42:56,150 --> 02:42:52,680
clouds but it was like a nice press

3747
02:42:57,980 --> 02:42:56,160
balloon day with a blue sky with just a

3748
02:42:59,270 --> 02:42:57,990
few clouds but either way you know when

3749
02:43:01,160 --> 02:42:59,280
I was there be a little hard to see oh

3750
02:43:02,930 --> 02:43:01,170
where is it over there who would come

3751
02:43:04,640 --> 02:43:02,940
back you know what nobody's seen her my

3752
02:43:06,410 --> 02:43:04,650
buddy cuz they always laugh like they do

3753
02:43:08,780 --> 02:43:06,420
on this new fogey Kim that is hilarious

3754
02:43:10,520 --> 02:43:08,790
and I know I get it either way anything

3755
02:43:11,780 --> 02:43:10,530
wrong go to work on Monday board you

3756
02:43:13,790 --> 02:43:11,790
know what I mean so as much as you got a

3757
02:43:16,280 --> 02:43:13,800
Rana Gloria it takes guys who don't

3758
02:43:19,250 --> 02:43:16,290
aren't obsessed about it so what but I

3759
02:43:21,740 --> 02:43:19,260
got this I find entertaining man and

3760
02:43:23,690 --> 02:43:21,750
Jimmy is so damn cool and it was in

3761
02:43:25,910 --> 02:43:23,700
front of the ultimate what you wanted to

3762
02:43:28,820 --> 02:43:25,920
be now you said one time I'm sorry for

3763
02:43:30,920 --> 02:43:28,830
going on run you said one time about you

3764
02:43:31,790 --> 02:43:30,930
sit there and you what the hell didn't

3765
02:43:34,280 --> 02:43:31,800
happen

3766
02:43:36,560 --> 02:43:34,290
why didn't take his phone out no I did

3767
02:43:38,810 --> 02:43:36,570
way after and I got two pages of it up

3768
02:43:40,580 --> 02:43:38,820
in the sky I could have had a video of

3769
02:43:42,200 --> 02:43:40,590
it right in front of me and it took me

3770
02:43:44,840 --> 02:43:42,210
that long and I'm not a man who doesn't

3771
02:43:46,430 --> 02:43:44,850
react when reaction deters right and I

3772
02:43:50,810 --> 02:43:46,440
didn't do it was out of control

3773
02:43:52,960 --> 02:43:50,820
you know but everybody saw it and wild

3774
02:43:58,430 --> 02:43:52,970
absolutely wild

3775
02:44:02,420 --> 02:43:58,440
the how long did the entire sighting

3776
02:44:05,030 --> 02:44:02,430
last right I would say 30 30

3777
02:44:06,410 --> 02:44:05,040
easy 30 minutes an hour maybe the

3778
02:44:08,570 --> 02:44:06,420
breakthrough sky because we'd have an

3779
02:44:11,390 --> 02:44:08,580
ampm practice you know their luncheon is

3780
02:44:14,030 --> 02:44:11,400
the football camp of kids come

3781
02:44:15,950 --> 02:44:14,040
superheating from tokyo and you know in

3782
02:44:18,860 --> 02:44:15,960
morning practice and you kids with a

3783
02:44:20,750 --> 02:44:18,870
housing lunch and under the you know the

3784
02:44:24,140 --> 02:44:20,760
shelter of the where the the home

3785
02:44:25,340 --> 02:44:24,150
grounds are and you know this thing was

3786
02:44:27,980 --> 02:44:25,350
there for the whole morning

3787
02:44:33,080 --> 02:44:27,990
now the he does is a guy in my boy who

3788
02:44:36,320 --> 02:44:33,090
runs it and he has you know social media

3789
02:44:39,590 --> 02:44:36,330
people and it open well this guy I'm

3790
02:44:42,050 --> 02:44:39,600
like we're sitting there there's Daniel

3791
02:44:46,250 --> 02:44:42,060
full this guy and you know he's he's

3792
02:44:48,920 --> 02:44:46,260
taking charge of 200 children like I'm

3793
02:44:50,390 --> 02:44:48,930
13 to like ain't mmm so like he's he's

3794
02:44:52,100 --> 02:44:50,400
got parents on his mind you got like a

3795
02:44:52,580 --> 02:44:52,110
phaser is there peanut butter where

3796
02:44:55,250 --> 02:44:52,590
someone

3797
02:44:57,110 --> 02:44:55,260
knocking thank you so this man did not

3798
02:44:59,060 --> 02:44:57,120
want to hear and I was going to buy his

3799
02:45:00,800 --> 02:44:59,070
beer that's like been looking up man

3800
02:45:02,870 --> 02:45:00,810
what's going on here it was a good to

3801
02:45:05,270 --> 02:45:02,880
know but I'm sure one of his people

3802
02:45:08,450 --> 02:45:05,280
might have it on but I have two on my

3803
02:45:10,670 --> 02:45:08,460
phone but the kind of point is about

3804
02:45:13,070 --> 02:45:10,680
that just like you say when you see it

3805
02:45:17,110 --> 02:45:13,080
you know it you know the point is I got

3806
02:45:19,310 --> 02:45:17,120
to see this giant you know cigar shaped

3807
02:45:21,830 --> 02:45:19,320
exactly one I think there's wondering

3808
02:45:26,150 --> 02:45:21,840
like it's a Turkey's I wanted in that

3809
02:45:30,860 --> 02:45:26,160
that day I think it was July 11th or two

3810
02:45:31,429 --> 02:45:30,870
11th because when I went home my youtube

3811
02:45:34,580 --> 02:45:31,439
youtubes

3812
02:45:37,969 --> 02:45:34,590
and there was a sighting on in st.

3813
02:45:39,590 --> 02:45:37,979
Catharines Ontario these a couple is in

3814
02:45:41,660 --> 02:45:39,600
the car because I want to see if anybody

3815
02:45:43,099 --> 02:45:41,670
else saw it right and so it's in

3816
02:45:45,500 --> 02:45:43,109
Catharines Ontario which is not where I

3817
02:45:49,370 --> 02:45:45,510
was maybe that would be like a couple

3818
02:45:51,500 --> 02:45:49,380
hour an hour half maybe a lesser west

3819
02:45:55,400 --> 02:45:51,510
from where I was two hours last an hour

3820
02:45:58,310 --> 02:45:55,410
out west and there was a box in this guy

3821
02:46:00,440 --> 02:45:58,320
that just like a couple was filming

3822
02:46:03,110 --> 02:46:00,450
through there carbons you know which

3823
02:46:04,429 --> 02:46:03,120
look I know I gift that was a Jimmy it

3824
02:46:07,880 --> 02:46:04,439
look like a good one to eat or like a

3825
02:46:10,550 --> 02:46:07,890
and I'm not gonna fall for anything wait

3826
02:46:12,530 --> 02:46:10,560
is this what we have ahead go ahead

3827
02:46:16,070 --> 02:46:12,540
are you kidding me you go bro in Dutch

3828
02:46:18,380 --> 02:46:16,080
yeah well I mean I say this so often

3829
02:46:22,130 --> 02:46:18,390
because when it happens

3830
02:46:24,730 --> 02:46:22,140
there's the there is your life before

3831
02:46:30,429 --> 02:46:24,740
and then there's your life immediately

3832
02:46:34,099 --> 02:46:30,439
after it can be and it was from a true

3833
02:46:36,679 --> 02:46:34,109
life-changing event and that is what's

3834
02:46:40,760 --> 02:46:36,689
most amazing about it because before you

3835
02:46:43,790 --> 02:46:40,770
have questions after each well you may

3836
02:46:49,639 --> 02:46:43,800
have more questions but at least one at

3837
02:46:52,190 --> 02:46:49,649
least that one is answered right okay

3838
02:46:53,990 --> 02:46:52,200
yeah it was the ultimate like I I even

3839
02:46:56,690 --> 02:46:54,000
get the humor into myself the one all

3840
02:46:58,219 --> 02:46:56,700
right like finally I've admitted

3841
02:47:00,440 --> 02:46:58,229
everybody look guys and we're all

3842
02:47:04,969 --> 02:47:00,450
excuse me excuse me I'm sorry

3843
02:47:06,590 --> 02:47:04,979
when we're all hammered it that uh we're

3844
02:47:10,220 --> 02:47:06,600
all having fun and

3845
02:47:12,920 --> 02:47:10,230
I like this whole useful thing etc so

3846
02:47:16,250 --> 02:47:12,930
the fact that on Sunday you know years

3847
02:47:20,030 --> 02:47:16,260
later and God I saw one like come on man

3848
02:47:22,700 --> 02:47:20,040
you know and but at the same time it was

3849
02:47:25,310 --> 02:47:22,710
just holy cow it could have been any

3850
02:47:29,110 --> 02:47:25,320
better I guess a disc would have been a

3851
02:47:31,880 --> 02:47:29,120
better you know shape and you know

3852
02:47:36,410 --> 02:47:31,890
viewing or whatever but a 200 with

3853
02:47:38,410 --> 02:47:36,420
charcoal pool noodle like bent and

3854
02:47:41,960 --> 02:47:38,420
moving independently and shining and

3855
02:47:45,050 --> 02:47:41,970
rotating and therefore I know an hour

3856
02:47:47,960 --> 02:47:45,060
and you know 30 minutes 45 minutes and

3857
02:47:49,880 --> 02:47:47,970
it was kind the kids like 65 people on

3858
02:47:50,390 --> 02:47:49,890
this whole football game it was out of

3859
02:47:53,630 --> 02:47:50,400
control

3860
02:47:54,730 --> 02:47:53,640
yeah what was I what was the date when

3861
02:47:59,450 --> 02:47:54,740
did this happen

3862
02:48:01,850 --> 02:47:59,460
like I said I think something lemons is

3863
02:48:03,800 --> 02:48:01,860
running in my head here it only because

3864
02:48:05,540 --> 02:48:03,810
the hour is why I can't just spit it out

3865
02:48:07,460 --> 02:48:05,550
I hope you understand that right and so

3866
02:48:10,790 --> 02:48:07,470
uh it's like I'm saying

3867
02:48:12,980 --> 02:48:10,800
July 11th and again it was a Super

3868
02:48:19,130 --> 02:48:12,990
League football camp summer camp in

3869
02:48:25,250 --> 02:48:19,140
Aurora and so July 11th okay Oh Aurora

3870
02:48:29,870 --> 02:48:25,260
Colorado Aurora Ontario Ontario and yes

3871
02:48:32,480 --> 02:48:29,880
sir and this is July 11th 2017 you got

3872
02:48:35,950 --> 02:48:32,490
it okay well you know I want everybody

3873
02:48:39,470 --> 02:48:35,960
up in Canada that was around that area

3874
02:48:42,050 --> 02:48:39,480
to let me know if you saw anything in

3875
02:48:44,960 --> 02:48:42,060
the sky and if you got any images of it

3876
02:48:47,570 --> 02:48:44,970
I would love to hear from you so oh yeah

3877
02:48:48,050 --> 02:48:47,580
I really appreciate it thank you for the

3878
02:48:52,910 --> 02:48:48,060
phone call

3879
02:48:54,830 --> 02:48:52,920
I know that I'll do it because I've not

3880
02:48:58,640 --> 02:48:54,840
got a guy so I sent one more quick one

3881
02:49:01,370 --> 02:48:58,650
it's so quick okay thank you sir I mean

3882
02:49:04,130 --> 02:49:01,380
it's taking so I'm driving home this is

3883
02:49:06,920 --> 02:49:04,140
like this is going again Ontario and I'm

3884
02:49:08,660 --> 02:49:06,930
driving up to Welf Ontario from kind of

3885
02:49:11,780 --> 02:49:08,670
Burlington Ontario kind of Hamilton

3886
02:49:14,240 --> 02:49:11,790
Ontario area so it's a 35-minute drive

3887
02:49:16,490 --> 02:49:14,250
up a two-lane highway come down

3888
02:49:19,780 --> 02:49:16,500
somebody's a little bit whatever anyway

3889
02:49:22,180 --> 02:49:19,790
it's it's like three

3890
02:49:25,300 --> 02:49:22,190
for the mortgage balance is one of those

3891
02:49:27,700 --> 02:49:25,310
morning's midnight snow and I see this

3892
02:49:30,670 --> 02:49:27,710
all sudden in a dark sky in front of me

3893
02:49:33,670 --> 02:49:30,680
basketball like in the sky with it like

3894
02:49:35,290 --> 02:49:33,680
a trail and it spills doubt about if I'm

3895
02:49:37,630 --> 02:49:35,300
looking at my windshield name if I put

3896
02:49:40,720 --> 02:49:37,640
my fingers up the size of I put my thumb

3897
02:49:42,610 --> 02:49:40,730
to dip my pinky finger anyway I'm like

3898
02:49:45,730 --> 02:49:42,620
this is unbelievable I don't think it

3899
02:49:48,761 --> 02:49:45,740
has to be a thing that you can explain

3900
02:49:50,590 --> 02:49:48,771
but Robin holy what a thing I just have

3901
02:49:54,400 --> 02:49:50,600
to be looking out and seeing it whatever

3902
02:49:55,480 --> 02:49:54,410
well a year later okay or more a year

3903
02:49:57,520 --> 02:49:55,490
half a year

3904
02:49:59,350 --> 02:49:57,530
finally cuz I've been looking anybody

3905
02:50:01,840 --> 02:49:59,360
else see this like in a guy with a dash

3906
02:50:04,240 --> 02:50:01,850
cam caught it and it was in comet flying

3907
02:50:06,580 --> 02:50:04,250
and he caught the same she would have

3908
02:50:09,060 --> 02:50:06,590
seconds that I fortunately got to see

3909
02:50:11,410 --> 02:50:09,070
and then through the YouTube or whatever

3910
02:50:13,020 --> 02:50:11,420
someone actually saw at the same time

3911
02:50:15,850 --> 02:50:13,030
business some billion people in Missouri

3912
02:50:17,530 --> 02:50:15,860
some other dude thought and that would

3913
02:50:24,220 --> 02:50:17,540
explain what I saw which I knew it was

3914
02:50:27,520 --> 02:50:24,230
but that's freakily yeah I have there

3915
02:50:31,270 --> 02:50:27,530
are a few think about it for a second

3916
02:50:35,490 --> 02:50:31,280
when we what you know shooting star

3917
02:50:40,390 --> 02:50:35,500
comet or media or satellite debris

3918
02:50:44,980 --> 02:50:40,400
re-entering the atmosphere so much that

3919
02:50:48,910 --> 02:50:44,990
has never seen right never seen I had a

3920
02:50:50,080 --> 02:50:48,920
sighting and this is no joke Matt no

3921
02:50:52,930 --> 02:50:50,090
joke

3922
02:50:55,330 --> 02:50:52,940
middle of the day two o'clock in the

3923
02:50:57,940 --> 02:50:55,340
afternoon I see something in the sky

3924
02:51:01,480 --> 02:50:57,950
cloudless sky and I see something

3925
02:51:03,490 --> 02:51:01,490
smoking and it's coming towards me it's

3926
02:51:07,060 --> 02:51:03,500
going from the south that's going to the

3927
02:51:09,610 --> 02:51:07,070
north and and I look and it flies right

3928
02:51:14,770 --> 02:51:09,620
over my head and as it flies over my

3929
02:51:19,420 --> 02:51:14,780
head I look and it's a meteor and I can

3930
02:51:21,761 --> 02:51:19,430
hear it crackling burning and it's

3931
02:51:23,920 --> 02:51:21,771
flaming and I could see the rock I could

3932
02:51:30,130 --> 02:51:23,930
see the fires off the back of it long

3933
02:51:31,421 --> 02:51:30,140
trail of smoke and it's this is now this

3934
02:51:33,520 --> 02:51:31,431
was big this is a bit

3935
02:51:37,051 --> 02:51:33,530
anyway this is here in Southern

3936
02:51:39,761 --> 02:51:37,061
California and I watch it fly overhead

3937
02:51:41,411 --> 02:51:39,771
all the way and then go behind the

3938
02:51:43,511 --> 02:51:41,421
mountains and I'm thinking about and

3939
02:51:48,251 --> 02:51:43,521
wasn't that fast either wasn't them

3940
02:51:51,011 --> 02:51:48,261
anyway I'm imagining myself jumping in

3941
02:51:53,350 --> 02:51:51,021
my car getting that direction and going

3942
02:51:57,421 --> 02:51:53,360
you know and getting me some meteorite

3943
02:52:01,841 --> 02:51:57,431
stone and sell it on eBay bye-bye

3944
02:52:05,081 --> 02:52:01,851
nothing in the news nah nobody talked

3945
02:52:15,161 --> 02:52:05,091
about it no photographs no video and I

3946
02:52:21,281 --> 02:52:15,171
saw this is knows this lasted for 15

3947
02:52:26,081 --> 02:52:21,291
seconds longer oh yeah and so but anyway

3948
02:52:29,020 --> 02:52:26,091
this was 2010-2011 and realize and I saw

3949
02:52:31,511 --> 02:52:29,030
it go down nothing in the news I wanted

3950
02:52:33,461 --> 02:52:31,521
to know if it hit a house you know if it

3951
02:52:35,111 --> 02:52:33,471
landed in a farm I want to know how big

3952
02:52:37,480 --> 02:52:35,121
it was I wanted to know if there's a

3953
02:52:40,781 --> 02:52:37,490
crater left I wanted to know who found

3954
02:52:50,861 --> 02:52:40,791
it you know nothing not a peep and I saw

3955
02:52:53,081 --> 02:52:50,871
it I watched it I did watch this thing

3956
02:52:59,770 --> 02:52:53,091
when it when this thing when it went

3957
02:53:03,071 --> 02:52:59,780
over my head I'm gonna say I don't know

3958
02:53:06,220 --> 02:53:03,081
a few thousand feet 5,000 feet yeah

3959
02:53:09,701 --> 02:53:06,230
there wasn't a high at all wasn't idle I

3960
02:53:12,730 --> 02:53:09,711
heard it I could hear it Wow

3961
02:53:14,921 --> 02:53:12,740
hey what was your name again yeah head

3962
02:53:18,060 --> 02:53:14,931
brother thank you had great phone call

3963
02:53:20,741 --> 02:53:18,070
my friend thank you man okay I'm gonna

3964
02:53:22,690 --> 02:53:20,751
okay man be safe up there that's what

3965
02:53:24,071 --> 02:53:22,700
I'm talking about when I say up there

3966
02:53:30,361 --> 02:53:24,081
I'm talking about the great white north

3967
02:53:33,011 --> 02:53:30,371
that is Canada Rik Emmett triumphs I

3968
02:53:37,511 --> 02:53:33,021
talked about triumphs this weekend I saw

3969
02:53:40,800 --> 02:53:37,521
this thing and I don't I you know it was

3970
02:53:42,969 --> 02:53:40,810
obviously what it was just a meteor but

3971
02:53:48,309 --> 02:53:42,979
[Music]

3972
02:53:50,859 --> 02:53:48,319
to see it flying so slowly alright it

3973
02:53:53,979 --> 02:53:50,869
was it was crazy and I could hear it I

3974
02:53:57,519 --> 02:53:53,989
could see it I saw the details and it

3975
02:54:01,439 --> 02:53:57,529
was it was amazing you know what it

3976
02:54:03,809 --> 02:54:01,449
burned like and I went and and talked to

3977
02:54:06,670 --> 02:54:03,819
you know a couple of friends of mine

3978
02:54:12,210 --> 02:54:06,680
were standing there watching this it

3979
02:54:14,979 --> 02:54:12,220
reminded me of you remember those little

3980
02:54:16,899 --> 02:54:14,989
snake pellets that you could light on

3981
02:54:19,120 --> 02:54:16,909
fire right and then it would you know

3982
02:54:21,580 --> 02:54:19,130
they right

3983
02:54:24,029 --> 02:54:21,590
it was like that it was burning like

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that on the back of it it was like

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flaming like with intention he you know

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gray smoke like those snake pellets what

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did they call those those uh little

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snake things that forget what they were

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called

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I don't do they even still have those

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can you still buy him but it was like

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that so it was burning from the back end

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creating that crazy smoke that was

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staying in the air and it just flew past

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it wasn't like the blink of an eye

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wasn't breaking the speed of sound it

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was pretty slow like it should have

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fallen out of the sky and it went right

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behind the mountains here in Burbank I

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don't know what ever happened to it

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crazy right ah man what a great

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conversation tonight with a Chance

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gardener and everybody magical Egypt

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02:55:24,189 --> 02:55:21,170
calm there is a promo that is out there

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on Facebook and it's really really funny

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and it's a sound clip of what I had to

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say one night when I was introducing

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chants about magical Egypt and the

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impact that it had all of magical Egypt

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is available at magical Egypt calm so

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02:55:45,760 --> 02:55:41,390
you can go back and watch the original

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02:55:47,439 --> 02:55:45,770
ones they it's out there it's all over

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02:55:49,870 --> 02:55:47,449
the web but that's not the point is

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02:55:52,450 --> 02:55:49,880
support magical Egypt go and get it use

4015
02:55:54,340 --> 02:55:52,460
the promo code f2 fade to black

4016
02:55:55,790 --> 02:55:54,350
and go and subscribe they have a

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02:55:57,740 --> 02:55:55,800
brilliant

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02:56:01,429 --> 02:55:57,750
a website and channel you get your own

4019
02:56:03,410 --> 02:56:01,439
dashboard and and so forth but you can

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02:56:07,460 --> 02:56:03,420
go back and watch the original magical

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02:56:11,599 --> 02:56:07,470
Egypt the intro and I always go back to

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02:56:13,639 --> 02:56:11,609
episode 1 and the intro there when John

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02:56:16,070 --> 02:56:13,649
Anthony West turns around and looks in

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the camera and he's standing in between

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02:56:21,230 --> 02:56:18,330
these pillars right and he turns and he

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02:56:24,290 --> 02:56:21,240
looks at the camera something happens at

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02:56:27,349 --> 02:56:24,300
that moment and you realized that John

4028
02:56:30,110 --> 02:56:27,359
Anthony West possesses the knowledge and

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he's about to share it with you they

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take a tour and I mentioned this before

4031
02:56:39,550 --> 02:56:36,020
they take a tour of the Cairo Museum and

4032
02:56:42,349 --> 02:56:39,560
they're looking at these different

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02:56:45,230 --> 02:56:42,359
display cases and and the way that

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02:56:47,360 --> 02:56:45,240
chance shoots all of these artifacts and

4035
02:56:50,330 --> 02:56:47,370
you're listening to John you're going on

4036
02:56:53,780 --> 02:56:50,340
this tour it's it's stuff that you've

4037
02:56:58,130 --> 02:56:53,790
never seen presented before it's the

4038
02:57:01,940 --> 02:56:58,140
secret stuff right and and but then you

4039
02:57:05,570 --> 02:57:01,950
get John's narration and his description

4040
02:57:08,360 --> 02:57:05,580
of the symbolism symbolist Egypt it is

4041
02:57:10,190 --> 02:57:08,370
done so well it's just incredible so

4042
02:57:13,130 --> 02:57:10,200
with that I'm gonna get out of here

4043
02:57:19,370 --> 02:57:16,490
ken Johnston is with us and he's got a

4044
02:57:21,770 --> 02:57:19,380
collection of NASA images that he was

4045
02:57:24,620 --> 02:57:21,780
ordered to destroy he did not he made

4046
02:57:26,150 --> 02:57:24,630
copies I think he destroyed one said he

4047
02:57:28,670 --> 02:57:26,160
kept the other set for himself

4048
02:57:30,650 --> 02:57:28,680
the images are incredible so we're gonna

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02:57:33,530 --> 02:57:30,660
discuss tomorrow and tomorrow night some

4050
02:57:36,320 --> 02:57:33,540
of these images what is in them and what

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02:57:38,179 --> 02:57:36,330
the implications are ok so that's gonna

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02:57:42,380 --> 02:57:38,189
be tomorrow night Thursday Wednesday

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night is Michaela Sheldon and she is

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02:57:48,950 --> 02:57:44,370
she's back and we're gonna be discussing

4055
02:57:50,480 --> 02:57:48,960
the the message to humanity Thursday

4056
02:57:53,300 --> 02:57:50,490
night another Fator night which on

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02:57:55,219 --> 02:57:53,310
Rapaport and is no more fake newsroom

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02:57:57,139 --> 02:57:55,229
followed by open lines

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02:57:59,960 --> 02:57:57,149
this is fade to black I'm your host

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02:58:02,870 --> 02:57:59,970
Jimmy Church fade to Black's executive

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02:58:05,990 --> 02:58:02,880
producer is ritika Murray on show is

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02:58:07,330 --> 02:58:06,000
produced by Hill J palm Renee Denis and

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02:58:10,750 --> 02:58:07,340
Bob announces RC

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the geek music doug aldrich intro space

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02:58:21,010 --> 02:58:17,689
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copyright of 2018 by fade to black in

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4071
02:58:34,120 --> 02:58:32,090
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4072
02:58:36,040 --> 02:58:34,130
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02:58:37,660 --> 02:58:36,050
written permission from fade to black or

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02:58:40,030 --> 02:58:37,670
the game changer Network I'm your host

4075
02:58:43,240 --> 02:58:40,040
Jimmy Church follow me on Twitter @ JT

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02:58:46,929 --> 02:58:43,250
radio everybody good on stellar alpha

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02:58:50,860 --> 02:58:46,939
dot on stellar comm register get your

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profile page going it's the next great

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02:58:55,750 --> 02:58:53,990
social media network until tomorrow

4080
02:58:59,080 --> 02:58:55,760
night with Ken Johnston

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02:59:01,880 --> 02:58:59,090
I'm your host Jimmy Church be safe go

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back leads happy